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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Cameron has been shooting a lot of underwater stuff... he loves underwater. People don't get enough of good underwater movies.
The Abyss, Titanic, now Avatar.
There is certainly room to impress.
The Abyss, Titanic, now Avatar.
There is certainly room to impress.
James Cameron talks about the difficulties of filming ‘Avatar 2’ and shows new images of the process
In 2009, 'Avatar', the James Cameron film in which Sam Worthington gave life to a former marine who infiltrated a
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The story was unbelievebly dumb considering the Director, budget and hype involved.
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Sterling
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I mean sure, there's been 6000 noble savage/white savior movies. I just think it's weird that dances with wolves being the 5962nd one is fine, but this one was 1 too far.
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The setting was great. The plotline was retarded, and childish.
Disney/cameron can promote. They probably should have done more to keep the brand alive. it WAS HUGE back then... but yeah. has lost a TON of power, from nothing keeping it alive.. and how sadly superficial the plot was.
(I'll admit I had actually thought it came out before Lord of the rings and harry potter..)
I'd say Avatar's initial success was the cgi/3d tech, combined with the popcorn flick bombastic visuals, and intentionally superficially endearing characters. big cat eye people intentionally made to look like babies to pull the heart string. Cameron literally saying, sad pouting cats on purpose.
Half the marvel movies have that same design theory. they fall apart on rewatch, or when you start thinking about logic, characters, motivations, plot, etc. But they are fun that first time you watch them, so get butts into the seats.
I'm not really sure how the story continues on Pandora itself in interesting way.
Is Avatar intended to pull from Dune? is Pandora Arrakis?
Disney/cameron can promote. They probably should have done more to keep the brand alive. it WAS HUGE back then... but yeah. has lost a TON of power, from nothing keeping it alive.. and how sadly superficial the plot was.
(I'll admit I had actually thought it came out before Lord of the rings and harry potter..)
I'd say Avatar's initial success was the cgi/3d tech, combined with the popcorn flick bombastic visuals, and intentionally superficially endearing characters. big cat eye people intentionally made to look like babies to pull the heart string. Cameron literally saying, sad pouting cats on purpose.
Half the marvel movies have that same design theory. they fall apart on rewatch, or when you start thinking about logic, characters, motivations, plot, etc. But they are fun that first time you watch them, so get butts into the seats.
I'm not really sure how the story continues on Pandora itself in interesting way.
Is Avatar intended to pull from Dune? is Pandora Arrakis?
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Big Phoenix
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The problem wasnt it that it was a retelling, the problem was that the actual plot was incredibly dumb especially when you take into context how much "detail" went into crafting the universe its set in. The humans come off as way too blood thirsty and dumb while the navi come off as completely perfect in every way.
RLM's review of it is spot on;
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Disney didn't acquire Avatar until they acquired Fox in 2019.
I'm sure Disney will try to make Avatar another MCU & Star Wars universe type thing that never ends
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Caliane
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Disney pandora park started development in 2011, and opened in 2017.
they had their hands back in the pie way back then.
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The answer is coming. It involves no longer requiring actors. As just an off the wall example, Imagine doing The Magnificent Seven with a choice of actors at what ever age. You could have Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Sam Elliot, Paul Newman, Robert Redford, Steve McQueen and Charles Bronson all in the same movie at the prime of their life. Imagine Bruce Lee taking on Steven Seagal with Van Damn thrown in for good measure.
That is the kind of tech that I think is close to coming.
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Im talking about the movies.
Disney also had Star Wars rides before acquiring Star Wars.
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ive been hearing about actor's likenesses being negotiated in contracts, but without certain dialogue and the uncanny valley still in films. its going to still be a long time before you see a fight scene between Errol Flynn and Tom Cruise.
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Close? Doubtful. 15 years...maybe.
Not due to the tech, but due to the suits. Look at how risk adverse Hollywood is. They would rather throw money at shitty remakes that make a 10% return, than risk anything on innovation (that has no track record of the_returns) and that's a huge drag on the adoption and development of that kind of tech.
The Snow in the Desert short from Love Death +Robots (Netflix) shows that the tech is 90%+ there, and if the industry had full Hollywood support, it could probably be mainstream in 5 years or less.
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Dances had good characters and a compelling story, Avatar did not. Dances slowly built up the relationship between him and the natives. The misunderstandings between them, the desire to learn more about each other and eventually the rapport and friendship between them. The natives were portrayed pretty realistically (by hollywood standards). They were savage and at times pretty blood thirsty but also had great honor and loyalty. Hell The Last Samurai is another great example of this genre of films...great characters and a compelling story. Avatar had pretty colors, and that's about it.
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first reaction is just to make fun of avatar, "she was so bored she started crying" but then again James Cameron did Terminator, Aliens, T2, True Lies, and of course who can forget Titanic - literally EVERYONE said it was gonna bomb hard and be the biggest box office disaster in history, and it went on to make the most money ever until Avatar and then Avengers End Game.
So yeah, can't count him out, but i just can't imagine anyone gives a single fuck about avatar anymore. Hope its good though and does well, need more mega autistic sperglord movie directors who just wanna do their own shit
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did somebody paint that?
Avatar Concept Art and Art Direction — Dylan Cole Studio
Dylan Cole was concept art director on Avatar 1 and created hundreds of pieces of concept art defining the look of the film.
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Say what you want about the story because yes its been done a million times, but to this day Avatar is the best 3D/immersive experience I have ever had in a movie theatre.
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