Avengers: Age of Ultron

Malakriss_sl said:

I'm pretty sure I saw thrusters on the top accelerating it down, but yeah it would be far from an ELE.

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We don't know how high he was taking Sokovia, but if he was taking it right up to about 62 miles and accelerated it the entire way down, yeah I'm pretty sure that would be an extinction level event. That chunk of Sokovia looked to be about the size of the Chicxulub meteor. Now even with those thrusters it probably wouldn't have had enough time to accelerate all that much with only 62 miles to go, so maybe it would have been pretty mild as far as extinction events go, but humanity would have been effectively wiped out, especially of Ultron was still around afterwards to finish the culling.

Half of Avengers 1 would be about 311 million. It's going to make approximately 190-220 million this weekend. You don't know how the box office works if you think it will only make ~120 million after the first weekend.

I do think it will be interesting to see how it resonates. I'm thinking it will end up less than Avengers, but not by a massive amount. Probably a bit over $500 million.

Hawkeye: jokes about shooting Quicksilver in the back, blaming Ultron for his death.
Quicksilver: shot in the back by Ultron while defending Hawkeye.

I SMELL CONSPIRACY! CHECK THOSE WOUNDS FOR ARROWHEADS!

I didn't really like this film.

They spent a lot more time than I cared for on soap opera drama nonsense, and rehashed a lot of themes covered in previous Avenger movie. Ultron was so tamed in this film and I bet his total screen time was 30-45 minutes and the rest was Hawkeye's stupid wife and dumbass kids, or something like it. Seriously, did that farm scene work for anyone? I'm with Ultron on this, makes me want to vomit in my mouth every time this naive saccharine shit gets forced into a film.

Ultron's lines were well done and I enjoyed his dialogue a lot, so his limited screen time was very noticeable to me. Not only that, but this film does the one thing I hate--having heroes battle hordes of clones/robot drones. It was exactly like Star Wars the Phantom Menace, with OP Jedi one shotting dumb droids and me falling asleep.


The creation of Vision was also confusing and very poorly written. It just made no fucking sense. What would have been good is since they wanted to rehash that tired shit of the Avengers getting pulled apart and then reuniting, they could have used Vision as an example of Stark and the Avenger's agreeing to create an AI thing, and juxtapose that against what happened when Tony didn't consult his team and produced Ultron. It would have been a lot better than the confusing mess of vision's and counter-vision's and second guessing. I don't know.

Movie just had a lot of missed opportunities,

In regards to the rehashing of the plot or at least the villain plots and plans, i'm fine with it as this seems to be the case in just about any universe. Villains always take the same approaches to an extent and always make the same mistakes to allow good to triumph. Anyway... I like it though because it makes Loki and Ultron to look like "pawns" and if they make Thanos that "something different" someone mentioned earlier, I think that will be perfect.

Sure they could differentiate things a little but really the fact that it is frustrating to the audience makes me want to see what makes Thanos a different and more powerful threat. On the flip side, that really puts Marvel in a situation to have to deliver on Thanos.

Where do they go after Thanos? I keep thinking they are going to come out and kick off planet Hulk

Homsar_sl said:

Movie just had a lot of missed opportunities,

The way Thor explained it Ultron should have been able to Lift up Mjolnir. I would rather have Ultron fuck them up with the hammer and actually look like a real threat. Captain picking up the hammer would have been much more epic then the vision scene also

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I feel like MCU Cap could lift Mjolnir in a moment of real need, just not in a 'lets see whose worthy' drinking contest.

Cap couldn't pick up Thor's hammer because they need to save that moment for the fight against Thanos. Same reason nobody on the main team died or why Ultron felt so ineffectual. They're saving all their good shit for Thanos, Avengers 2 is the middle child of the MCU.

Homsar_sl said:

Where do they go after Thanos? I keep thinking they are going to come out and kick off planet Hulk

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By then I pray Fantastic Four has bombed and the rights reverted to Disney so we can see Galactus and Silver Surfer in one of these movies.

My guess is after Thanos is done, assuming the movies haven't started shitting the bed yet, they don't do another Avengers movie for awhile and just focus on individual movies. It will be pretty damn hard to top Thanos. Keep in mind that when Ant-Man comes out we're done with phase 2, and phase 3 is a whopping 10 movies (compared to the 6 movies for 1 and 2). If they manage to make another 11 movies without a single one of them bombing, who the hell knows where we'll be at. I mean the movies are still scheduled for four years out.

They also have decades of comics to mine for ideas. Ultron can come back super powerful, Scarlet Witch could fuck up the world etc.

My guess is they will do Secret Wars after Thanos.

Sucks we don't have some of the really big Villians tho, they are mostly in the X men, and FF universe. Doc Doom, Galactus, Magneto, Dark Phoenix etc

I really wish Marvel had the rights to Apocalypse, Hopefully Fox doesnt fuck it up.

As cool as that scene looked in Days of future I liked that the QS in Avengers much more. DoFP took me out of the movie a little bit when they put him into god mode then just said bye. Hopefully they stay away from Onslaught or Scarlet Which resetting everything

The movie was great and lived up to everything any reasonable person should expect. More Ultron would have been just more dumb stupid robot action or dialog, so I'm fine with what I got. A few things though....
1. War Machine... when he comes in the final battle, needed to pick up some big ass thing and plop it in front of Ultron to reinforce the funny joke from earlier.
2. Dumb love story between banner and Nat. It's not terrible, but there isn't time to do this properly. You can do a lullabye thing without making it weird for everyone. You get your token love story with Hawkeye anyway.
3. Captain America's "dream" doesn't really mean anything? I dunno.....Stark's was a foreshadowing to his fear and end of Avengers..... Thor's was a nice intro to Ragnarok..... and Captain Americas was ......something? I dunno I didn't get it.

Overall I'm nitpicking. Can't wait to get a blu ray with a Dolby Atmos track for the uber home theatre and turn it up way high.

Captain America's dream was not having a place in the world. Everyone talks about "home", but all his friends are dead. Basically this is the point where he switches from being a human to being a full time leader of the good and just. There is no personal life for him, only duty. That was the 'feels like home' line when you hear SHIELD personnel training in the background a la a military base.