Still haven't played with the phantom. I was going to get an idea of the shots i needed to make it work. It looks like from your videos you do a grid with angled shots in both directions? I was worried about having all the GPS and angle data to tie this together, i had no idea the software could do that too.
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It's much, much faster with GPS (even low quality) in the exif. Results are usually better, too.
For the 3d stuff, it's always down at a 45 degree angle, and different step heights.
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Just make sure your output is right side up. I had to get involved and solve a serious fuckup last year. Company had a new laser scanner they would put on the ground and they gathered 700,000 data points of a tower structure and platforms saving us the hassle of climbing all over a condemned structure. Nobody that produced the final engineering drawings bothered to notice the laser sat on the ground, unlike drawings which are drawn top down. They fabricated the entire job upside down. Such a time saver!
It was neat tech tho. Not ready for prime time tho. Even right side up the further you got away from the device the bigger the inaccuracies.
Just a random thought. I could see someone pouring over loads of gathered data and not noticing it was upside down.
It was neat tech tho. Not ready for prime time tho. Even right side up the further you got away from the device the bigger the inaccuracies.
Just a random thought. I could see someone pouring over loads of gathered data and not noticing it was upside down.
This generates a complete picture of the structure so it helps over a lidar point cloud. I laid my wallet on the bed last night and took about 20 pictures and it generated a point cloud where you could read my license.
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Would love an Ebee, but I dont see us having the funding / revenue / capital for that right now.
How rough is landing the fixed wing? Really been thinking about making a custom one, but I remember landing RC planes being a bitch (didnt have a camera tho, so maybe this would be easier?).
That Trimble looks like trash, is it fucking styrofoam? for 50k? Wtf
1000 acres is kind of the minimum, that is a test plot a friend of ours planted a few days ago. Most of the single plots wont be that large, but the volume for any client in this area will be very large.
(Nix that Ebee is not the one I was thinking of, but fuk its 12k for styrofoam? Lol)
Fuk it, spent 10minutes trying to find the gas powered VTOL fixed wing drone I found a few weeks ago and couldnt. I think it was produced by a company you went and visited and mentioned in the thread.
How rough is landing the fixed wing? Really been thinking about making a custom one, but I remember landing RC planes being a bitch (didnt have a camera tho, so maybe this would be easier?).
That Trimble looks like trash, is it fucking styrofoam? for 50k? Wtf
1000 acres is kind of the minimum, that is a test plot a friend of ours planted a few days ago. Most of the single plots wont be that large, but the volume for any client in this area will be very large.
(Nix that Ebee is not the one I was thinking of, but fuk its 12k for styrofoam? Lol)
Fuk it, spent 10minutes trying to find the gas powered VTOL fixed wing drone I found a few weeks ago and couldnt. I think it was produced by a company you went and visited and mentioned in the thread.
Borzak
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Landing a R/C plane isn't that big of a deal. Just food for thought. The larger the plane the easier it is to fly. Small planes flit and large planes fly. My 42% planes with a 120" wingspan are much easier to fly and land than small planes with a 30-40" wingspan by a lot.
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Setting up the new solo right now, hoping to have it ready for a flight tomorrow. We barely had enough batteries for this job the first time we did it, and they just changed the flight altitude from 400 to 200ft. Luckily the new Solo got here yesterday with 2 extra batteries (and 2 more arriving today), as well as an onboard 5v UBEC, so that I can drop the weight and instability of the extra USB power pack (2nd picture).
we would be using this - at least initially- for topography pretty much exclusively.
so looking at the phantom 3's there are 4 "versions" standard 4k advanced and professional.
i'm thinking advanced...well i ordered an advanced.....
i used to fly R/C ages ago...i'm 49 now and stopped when i was about 20... i used to go with my grandfather and we'd fly. plane i owned had a 48" wingspan a 0.40 schnerle gas engine (think FAST) - could fly for ~30 minutes on a tank of gas(half throttle or less) doing loops, barrel rolls etc. my Grandfather had a Cesna wanna be 6' span and was just rudder and elevator controls with the engine, thing got out of range once- high- and it took over 30 minutes of us CHASING IT in the car for us to get back in range (luckily it was flying west) and land it in a parking lot about 15 miles from where it took off...
so looking at the phantom 3's there are 4 "versions" standard 4k advanced and professional.
i'm thinking advanced...well i ordered an advanced.....
i used to fly R/C ages ago...i'm 49 now and stopped when i was about 20... i used to go with my grandfather and we'd fly. plane i owned had a 48" wingspan a 0.40 schnerle gas engine (think FAST) - could fly for ~30 minutes on a tank of gas(half throttle or less) doing loops, barrel rolls etc. my Grandfather had a Cesna wanna be 6' span and was just rudder and elevator controls with the engine, thing got out of range once- high- and it took over 30 minutes of us CHASING IT in the car for us to get back in range (luckily it was flying west) and land it in a parking lot about 15 miles from where it took off...
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Make sure you start reading about the Apps while you're waiting for it to arrive.
If you want me to help out a bit, get the "Pix4Dcapture" app. Pay attention to the part about correcting the GPS altitude information after a flight.
If you want to do it all on your own, get the DroneDeploy App. I think they still do 2 week trials, but I don't remember.
If you want me to help out a bit, get the "Pix4Dcapture" app. Pay attention to the part about correcting the GPS altitude information after a flight.
If you want to do it all on your own, get the DroneDeploy App. I think they still do 2 week trials, but I don't remember.
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That's awesome. I'm sure someone will make a law forbidding it and stamp their own name on it, though.
Also....ungggg
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Band, can you post a pic of your fixed wing drone?
Havent ordered anything yet, waiting until I catch 2 more ppl I want to talk to first. And also weighing the DIY / RTF and quad / fixed choices.
Right now, leaning towards DIY fixed, seems to be the cheapest way to get large scale projects underway.
Also, I read that cameras a few years ago couldnt handle fixed wing because of the speed being too high, has the camera tech caught up enough to where fixed wing speed doesnt create an issue?
Havent ordered anything yet, waiting until I catch 2 more ppl I want to talk to first. And also weighing the DIY / RTF and quad / fixed choices.
Right now, leaning towards DIY fixed, seems to be the cheapest way to get large scale projects underway.
Also, I read that cameras a few years ago couldnt handle fixed wing because of the speed being too high, has the camera tech caught up enough to where fixed wing speed doesnt create an issue?
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It's a finwing penguin from RMRC, HKpilot from hobby king, and a Taranis transmitter. I'm all for DIY and would love to see someone else here build one...BUT be ready for some headache if you do.
Borzak, I've had the plan up in 40mph winds (according to the telemtry estimate) and the Solo up in 30-35ish mph winds. They both handled it well, but the results sucked. And the fixed wings can fly better in the wind for sure, but they don't use gimbals, so you might be rolling too much for usable pictures.
Typically anything with a 2sec shutter interval is fine on anything. The 3sec shutter interval cameras might not work on a fast flying delta wing.
Global shutters are better than rolling shutters.
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Fixed wings for mapping do not use gimbals, though there are a few options. I think the Skyranger from hobbyking uses a gimbal (edit -Volantex ranger, not sky ranger), and it can fit between the landing gear. I've also seen some flat servo gimbals for mapping fixed wings, but it needs a lot of space. I think I saw it in theX8(delta wing, not multirotor).
TheE38drones do reverse thrust landings now. Most of the RTF delta wings do kind of a tip-stall spiral. Some fixed wings (like theedit2??? -Skuais close, but not what I'm thinking of.Quanum Observerwas wrong name, not it either. Same thing as the Volantex ranger ) do some weird stall with the horizontal stabalizer. The isreal military drone that I posted a ways back does this, but I've never seen them in flight.
I program in the landing approach on my fixed wings if its an area that I went to alot, but I usually just put it in some sort of stabilized mode and landed manually.
edit: EVERYONE should have a dewalt. And sorry for the mess, the office is crammed full of shit right now.
TheE38drones do reverse thrust landings now. Most of the RTF delta wings do kind of a tip-stall spiral. Some fixed wings (like theedit2??? -Skuais close, but not what I'm thinking of.Quanum Observerwas wrong name, not it either. Same thing as the Volantex ranger ) do some weird stall with the horizontal stabalizer. The isreal military drone that I posted a ways back does this, but I've never seen them in flight.
I program in the landing approach on my fixed wings if its an area that I went to alot, but I usually just put it in some sort of stabilized mode and landed manually.
edit: EVERYONE should have a dewalt. And sorry for the mess, the office is crammed full of shit right now.
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