Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Lyrical_sl said:

So shooting of this movie has started apparently.

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The Batman-powered Man of Steel sequel isn?t hitting theaters until 2015, and essentially everything about the movie besides the presence of Ben Affleck is shrouded in mystery. Last week, however, we learned that the movie would apparently feature a football game, since director Zack Snyder took his crew to film a showdown between Gotham City University and Metropolis State University. Video has emerged of the filming. There?s no Henry Cavill, no Affleck, definitely no Cranston-ized Lex Luthor, and indeed no indication that this scene will last longer than maybe 20 seconds in the movie.

Still, the member of the crew directing the crowd does offer some tantalizing hints. ?The first play, you guys are all really happy about. The second play is gonna be all at that end, and you?re gonna hate it.? So we know it?s not a blowout, even though Gotham was heavily-favored in my fantasy football league. (That?s what fantasy football is, right?)

Also, the person calls the movie Batman vs. Superman, which could be an official confirmation of the title of the movie. Or it could just be a red herring. Movies often use fake titles while they?re filming, like how Return of the Jedi was called Blue Harvest, and The Dark Knight Rises was called Magnus Rex, and Man of Steel was called The Hunt for the Genetic Codex Or Whatever. Anyhow, watch the video and pray that just maybe this movie is about Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent settling their differences once and for all on the gridiron.

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Screenwriter David Goyer says Superman's controversial actions at the end of Man of Steel will likely come into play in the film's sequel.

Goyer, who is also penning the Man of Steel follow-up, recently spoke about the climactic scene in the first film that saw Superman kill General Zod in order to prevent him from taking more innocent lives.

"We were pretty sure that was going to be controversial," Goyer said at the BATFA and BFI Screenwriters' Lecture, according to Digital Spy. "It's not like we were deluding ourselves, and we weren't just doing it to be cool. We felt, in the case of Zod, we wanted to put the character in an impossible situation and make an impossible choice."

Goyer adds that Man of Steel was "in a way Superman Begins" in that the character as we traditionally know him doesn't show up until the final moments of the movie.

"He's not really Superman until the end of the film," the writer continues. "We wanted him to have had that experience of having taken a life and carry that through onto the next films. Because he's Superman and because people idolise him he will have to hold himself to a higher standard."

Of course, the next film will feature Ben Affleck as Batman opposite Henry Cavill's Kal-El. And since the Dark Knight traditionally has a "no kill" rule, this could lead to an interesting debate between the two heroes. Though Superman (generally speaking) has had that same rule? before snapping the good general's neck in Man of Steel.

"This is one area, and I've written comic books as well and this is where I disagree with some of my fellow comic book writers -- 'Superman doesn't kill,'" says Goyer. "It's a rule that exists outside of the narrative and I just don't believe in rules like that. I believe when you're writing film or television, you can't rely on a crutch or rule that exists outside of the narrative of the film. ? So the situation was, Zod says 'I'm not going to stop until you kill me or I kill you.' The reality is no prison on the planet could hold him and in our film Superman can't fly to the moon, and we didn't want to come up with that crutch."

So they had him kill Zod. But wait? the Man of Steel Superman can't fly to the moon? Why not?

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Neki_sl said:

"This is one area, and I've written comic books as well and this is where I disagree with some of my fellow comic book writers -- 'Superman doesn't kill,'" says Goyer. "It's a rule that exists outside of the narrative and I just don't believe in rules like that. I believe when you're writing film or television, you can't rely on a crutch or rule that exists outside of the narrative of the film. ? So the situation was, Zod says 'I'm not going to stop until you kill me or I kill you.' The reality is no prison on the planet could hold him and in our film Superman can't fly to the moon, and we didn't want to come up with that crutch."

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So they had him kill Zod. But wait? the Man of Steel Superman can't fly to the moon? Why not?

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Neki_sl said:

David Goyer: Man of Steel's Shocking Ending will Affect Batman vs. Superman - IGN
the Man of Steel Superman can't fly to the moon? Why not?

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Superman Lives, Superman Returns and Man of Steel

In his Q&A/comedy DVD, An Evening With Kevin Smith, writer/director Kevin Smith related an anecdote about working for Peters when he was hired to write a script for a new Superman movie, then called Superman Reborn, and later renamed Superman Lives.[7]According to Smith, Peters had expressed disdain for most of Superman's iconic characteristics by demanding that Superman was never to fly[8] or appear in his trademark costume.[8] He also suggested Sean Penn as being ideal for the role, based on his performance as a death row inmate in Dead Man Walking saying that Penn had the eyes of a "caged animal, a fucking killer." Peters then demanded that the third act of the film include a fight between Superman and a giant spider,[9] to be unveiled in an homage to King Kong. Peters later produced the 1999 steampunk western Wild Wild West, the finale of which features a giant mechanical spider.[9]

Smith met Peters after completing a script and Peters instructed him to include a robot sidekick for Brainiac, a fight scene between Brainiac and two polar bears, and a marketable "space dog" pet, similar to Star Wars character Chewbacca. Smith inserted them into his script, but the project eventually was abandoned and the script discarded.

In Look, Up in the Sky: The Amazing Story of Superman, Jon Peters admitted that the Superman franchise was problematic for him: "The elements that I was focusing on were away from the heart, it was more leaning towards Star Wars in a sense, you know. I didn't realize the human part of it, I didn't have that."

He subsequently served as producer for Superman Returns, the 2006 movie directed by Bryan Singer, and as an executive producer for Man of Steel, the 2013 movie directed by Zack Snyder.[10]

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chthonic-anemos_sl said:

In earlier iterations they didn't want him to fly at all.

Jon Peters (executive producer) Man of SteelJon Peters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Batman vs. Superman screenwriter David Goyer sat down with the Associated Press to talk about the big 2015 movie.

Goyer explained that they?re further along with the movie than people realize. When asked if he pays attention to what the fans would like to say, Goyer said that he tries to ignore that because it prevents him from being creative.

?You have to write the story that you want to write, and hope that people want to see it?, he replied.

At the end of the interview Goyer is asked who he thinks would win in a fight between Batman and Superman.

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Neki_sl said:

So Goyer wants to write a story and thenhopespeople want to see it? Uhhhh.. No, you should write a story that people and the millions of fans would want, not what you want.

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Araysar_sl said:

I was talking about comics

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