It isn't just a Bible Belt issue, take, for example Roman Catholics. There are a lot of them, all over the country, and most of them (there are citations for this, I'm too lazy at the moment) are one issue voters: abortion. Save that fetus, and no though whatsoever given to aid after they are born, and no thought about the death penalty. No, the fetal lives are the ones to save, because they pass that moral judgement. This is a similar issue to gay marriage - they think it's immoral, so it can't become law. So, government doesn't get to infringe on Judeo-Christian morals, or you're a bad politician and a bad person. But, let's use that religious perspective to infringe on other people's perspective. Totally fine.You live in the Bible Belt, or around crazies? On the coasts, where people are able to think objectively and without fear of a made-up flying spaghetti monster sending them to a fiery afterlife, things are different.
That's too bad. Always have been and always will be double standards.It isn't just a Bible Belt issue, take, for example Roman Catholics. There are a lot of them, all over the country, and most of them (there are citations for this, I'm too lazy at the moment) are one issue voters: abortion. Save that fetus, and no though whatsoever given to aid after they are born, and no thought about the death penalty. No, the fetal lives are the ones to save, because they pass that moral judgement. This is a similar issue to gay marriage - they think it's immoral, so it can't become law. So, government doesn't get to infringe on Judeo-Christian morals, or you're a bad politician and a bad person. But, let's use that religious perspective to infringe on other people's perspective. Totally fine.
They aren't allowed to say don't infringe on my moral rights, and then using their own moral perspectives to influence law.
The Roman Catholic church basically was the holocaust enabler, so don't expect any moral integrity from them at any point.It isn't just a Bible Belt issue, take, for example Roman Catholics. There are a lot of them, all over the country, and most of them (there are citations for this, I'm too lazy at the moment) are one issue voters: abortion. Save that fetus, and no though whatsoever given to aid after they are born, and no thought about the death penalty. No, the fetal lives are the ones to save, because they pass that moral judgement. This is a similar issue to gay marriage - they think it's immoral, so it can't become law. So, government doesn't get to infringe on Judeo-Christian morals, or you're a bad politician and a bad person. But, let's use that religious perspective to infringe on other people's perspective. Totally fine.
They aren't allowed to say don't infringe on my moral rights, and then using their own moral perspectives to influence law.
I wouldn't go that far. There's been some pretty strong movements as of late to accept gays and gay marriage. We dedicated our daughter a few years ago right alongside a lesbian couple.That's too bad. Always have been and always will be double standards.
The two major sins for the RCC are the Sin of Eve - which is why they treat women as inferior - and the Murder of Christ. Since hating women through and through is pretty much impractical, the church focused on spreading hate vs the jews. You think the Nazis invented antisemitism? It is well known that antisemitism was widespread in Europe at that time. But the train of thought usually stops there, no one questions _why_. And it was because every priest preached antisemitism from the pulpit, sermon after sermon. It's pretty well established that without the already present antisemitism the Nazis would not have been able to gain so much momentum in their holocaust campaign. But because the main sentiment was "The Jews have it coming", it was possible. Note that this was also the reaction from other major European powers in the 30s, because the influence of the RCC was not limited to Germany.Are you sure
I don't want to to step into the Twilight Zone by agreeing with Quin. What I will say is that I don't trust anyone who honestly believes that their actions don't matter so long as they accept some belief then everything will be fine. I don't know that there has ever been a more dangerous and reckless attitude than that. It scares the shit out of me.j00t_sl said:So I don't know if I'm surprised that you consider Christians to be more morally bankrupt than any other group.
I guarantee if you worked for the same country at one of their European offices (if they have them) you'd get paid paternity leave.Wow you got a month off paid as the father? When my kid is born I have 2 choices, use my vacation, or take unpaid FMLA. I work for a huge worldwide corporation with otherwise great benefits, so I was pretty damn shocked when I learned this.
Oh, I would agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. But I would think that would be closer to athiesm than Christianity. Let's not turn this into a religious debate, though. I've met some really moral atheists and some pretty depraved Christians. I think Christians are judged harsher because we claim to know better. The attitude of "its better to ask forgiveness than permission" is a real thing and its infuriating. I will concede that attitude comes more from Christians, in my experienceI don't want to to step into the Twilight Zone by agreeing with Quin. What I will say is that I don't trust anyone who honestly believes that their actions don't matter so long as they accept some belief then everything will be fine. I don't know that there has ever been a more dangerous and reckless attitude than that. It scares the shit out of me.