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BAU BAU
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Yep. They literally fly through a "cloak" that looks like shithole Africa to reveal Wakasgard.
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Black Panther (2018)
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
ohkcrlho
Silver Baronet of the Realm
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Big Phoenix
Pronouns: zie/zhem/zer
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khorum
Murder Apologist
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Jait
Molten Core Raider
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If you start down that route you’ll realize these are horrible people who stood by during genocides and the slave trade. They still today decide leadership by ritual combat to the death or yield.
Meanwhile in the real world Disney is thrilled no one has asked why these actors were paid far less than normal for MCU movies. Celebrate fictional black culture, reality keeps on being reality.
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Xarpolis
Life's a Dream
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AKA - A city with lots of metal that's still a shithole Africa. Oh, and lots of apartment buildings and dirt streets and overall dark area with no sunlight.
Merrith
Golden Baronet of the Realm
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Xarpolis
Life's a Dream
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Amzin
Lord Nagafen Raider
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Basically Prime Directive taken to an extreme and more intimate level, really. Isolationism because "it would make things worse if other people knew what we had". Although considering how a lot of their tech seems new (based on the sister) I'm not sure how far advanced they were in MCU in say, WW2 or 1800s or 1700s etc.
But still, I never agreed with the prime directive and I sure don't agree with it here. But that is one of the major topics of the movie.
But still, I never agreed with the prime directive and I sure don't agree with it here. But that is one of the major topics of the movie.
Jait
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Prime Directive? This isn’t Star Trek. They’re Human. They’re directly related to and share the same air and resources as their neighbors.
Don’t do the rationalizing for the evil Wakandans. They are likely far worse than Hitler. Or in your case Khan.
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Syddin
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Other thing that might have an effect on Infinity war is the thought that the "magic" powers of vibranium, i.e. holding from death and such, might be caused by the Soul Stone. We hadn't seen it before and the purple glow and "deactivation" for a train ride was fishy for a metal.
Angerz
Trakanon Raider
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This was literally the beef Killmonger had.
And W'kabi expresses the isolationist feeling pretty well in one line, "when you invite refugees, you also invite their problems". You can't be a Utopia if you try to fix everyone's problems.
But he is also willing to remove all their problems by conquering the world, expressed directly to T'Challa ("if you give me the order, I will go and conquer the world" or some such) and in his betrayal of T'Challa and alignment with Killmonger.
They both are ok with leaving Wakanda's isolationism in the past, but W'Kabi wants to seat Wakanda on the top of the world, helping the people who look like them by bringing everyone else low and T'Challa tells the previous Black Panthers they were wrong during his resurrection, then offers to share Wakanda's knowledge with the world and opening outreach centers in black communities.
But yes, prior to the events of this movie, Wakanda was a bunch of villains who let not only Africans suffer under Colonialism, but in modern times, let the world suffer to ravages of disease, cancer, famine, whatever else bad you can think of.
Amzin
Lord Nagafen Raider
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I not only said that I disagreed with the directive but also (earlier somewhere) that the Wakandans are arseholes at best for their isolationist behavior but definitely extend into the "evil" part of the chart with some of the arguments and no doubt previous rulers.
Going off topic here... Prime Directive isn't species specific, it's essentially "if X group can't find us by themselves, don't reveal ourselves or affect in any way X group" which is basically what Wakanda has done for however long they've been advantaged over the rest of the continent / world. It's a "non-interference" directive and while the reasoning for it can sometimes in specific cases be justified, it's overall a shit attitude and policy and generally on the evil-selfish side. If a Star Fleet crew came across some long-lost human civ on a world that had no recollection of space travel, prime directive would dictate that Star Fleet NOT make contact.
Of course exceptions have been made because it is, again, a generally evil policy, but that's the gist of it.
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DickTrickle
Definitely NOT Furor Planedefiler
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Guess Chinese people aren't so racist they won't watch a film full of black people, after all. BP debuted with $66.5 million, which puts it at third place opening in China for the MCU. There's a pretty good chance BP outperforms TLJ domestically and a smaller chance that it outperforms it globally. Who would have ever thought that in early December?
DickTrickle
Definitely NOT Furor Planedefiler
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I honesty have never seen BO grosses from Africa except for South Africa, which is at $5M. I think there's so little potential there studios don't put any effort into most of those countries.
Conefed
Blackwing Lair Raider
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