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You could try Jaws of the Lion first, cheaper entry in case they don’t like it.
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Frosthaven isn't fun.
I mean - it is, but it isn't. Allow me to elaborate.
Frosthaven has multiple mechanics that seem like they're cool, and then slowly turn into a slog or are too cumbersome for the effort. Alchemy, Outpost Phase, crafting, loot deck, challenges, trials, all of it. On top of that, if you are playing 4p, virtually every enemy in the game is elite, so scenarios turn into this giant slog.
Some of the classes are fun, but others have annoying mechanics that lead to more micromanagement than you should realistically have to do in a board game. In addition, I am not a fan of the new card layout and don't like needing a decoder ring to figure out what the hieroglyphics on the card say.
I want to like the game, it's a cool concept. It has cool ideas. But it's just - not as fun as gloomhaven or Crimson Scales. Considering the people designing frosthaven seem to think it's a massive improvement over both, I don't expect Gloomhaven 2E to ever be good either.
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I can't believe FH doesn't have a fail safe system for some of the buildings, we are 80% of the way through our campaign and just unlocked a significant option that came so early in GH. Tying class unlocks to random events or story events has meant we have had multiple retirements without new class options, the GH method was such cleaner imo
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If they do end up liking Jaws, I'd recommend going to Gloomhaven 1.0 first. As mentioned, FH changed several things around and they're not necessarily better than GH's systems. Doubly so recommended since you said they're new to complex games.
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I was having trouble finding Gloomhaven available anywhere
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If it’s not on Amazon, try either your local game store, Facebook marketplace, or EBay. Should be fairly easy to get a cheap, used copy at this point.
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Probably because that faggot hired a bunch of other faggots to crater his own fucking business.
See the Kickstarter thread.
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Seconding Jaws of the Lion. Way less setup and space requirements. I heard Frosthaven described as "Gloomhaven, but MORE of it." Definitely wouldn't go in first with it.
In other news, I know I'm 8 years late to the party, but I've really gotten into Terraforming Mars lately. I had been playing a couple games here and there in real life when I could pressure my friends into it but I got the PC port and have just been jamming a ton of it.
In other news, I know I'm 8 years late to the party, but I've really gotten into Terraforming Mars lately. I had been playing a couple games here and there in real life when I could pressure my friends into it but I got the PC port and have just been jamming a ton of it.
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The Gloomhaven game on Steam is extremely well done if you want to try the systems on your own before you buy, although Jaws of the Lion is so cheap it’s probably still the best route to try with the group.
My dad has played the shit out of the Steam version, and also plays with the physical as it’s still just a different experience. He thinks he just got through every scenario with his playthrough he ended last week.
My dad has played the shit out of the Steam version, and also plays with the physical as it’s still just a different experience. He thinks he just got through every scenario with his playthrough he ended last week.
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Yeah I've been playing the digital version on and off. Completed a full campaign and am doing an online co-op guildmaster game with a couple friends (2 of the 3 I play IRL with). It's a solid game, although the interface and controls take some getting used to.
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I tried to sell my (totally unplayed) Gloomhaven for 50 bucks a year or two ago and couldn’t get a single bite off FB marketplace or Craigslist.
It’s just too much to deal with without a static enough board gaming group.
It’s just too much to deal with without a static enough board gaming group.
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