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hodj

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I thought it was the Scots that wore kilts? Or are Scots Celtic as well? British Isles ethnic traits and ancestry always confuse me. Irish, Welsh, English, and Scotch, never sure which one goes where.
Hell I don't know. I just like my stereotypes simple, so everyone from the United Kingdom is a Celt to me.

including Canadians.
 

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"Celts" were actually just a large ethnic group that started in central Europe who shared common linguistic and spiritual beliefs. Think of all the different groups of Plains Indians. Like that. The Celts held most of Europe until Rome got sick of their shit and did what Rome did.

And any Brit that likes to talk shit about the Welsh should remember that the Welsh people are more "British" than the "British" who are basically just savage Frenchies. ooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Ok, so who are the Saxons and who are the Normans? I always assumed the Normans were English.
 

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Pffft. I'm from the UK, my mum is from up north, my dad is from Iceland. Then again, the UK is an island that has spent the last 2000 years having it's gene pool diluted from invasion after invasion. There's no simple stereotypes here any more.
 

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Bottom line it: is my negligible Irish ancestry going to land me the not-at-all mannish tranny up there?
 

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Normans -> French people from Normandy (Named after the Normans) who invaded England and conquered it.
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Normans -> French people from Normandy (Named after the Normans) who invaded England and conquered it.
So how long does it take for someone to be considered ethnic to a given territory? Normans conquered England almost 1000 years ago.
 
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This is probably one of the most nonsensical things I've read on the internet in quite a long time.

We should restrict the rights of people to provide for their children when government/the system has failed them because it denies others the right to provide for their children? I'm pretty sure you've just thrown a dart at a target, but the target was 180 degrees out of phase with where your dart actually landed. The reason that children are not being provided a roughly equivalent education is not because some parents can afford to send their children to private schools, rather, this situation is as it is because the government has failed to address the public educational system's deficiencies. You would solve a failure on the part of our government to address education properly by...restricting the rights of others to avoid having to engage in a failed system. This is not a cure
What if the sickness were that the people with wealth and therefore political power to fix the school systems had an eject button on society called "privatize it" that was cheaper to press than worrying about other kids' schools?
 

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Ok, so who are the Saxons and who are the Normans? I always assumed the Normans were English.
First was the Celts, basically the earlier description of them is accurate. Incidentally Gauls were Celts too, so named because they lived in Gaul.

Angles and Saxons were Germanic tribes which colonised Briton in the early middle ages and pushed the celts to the perhiphery. England is basically named after the Angles.

Normans came from Normandy, but were basically the descendants of vikings who had settled the area 100 years earlier, and who had adapted to the French language and culture. They were EVERYWHERE in that time period though, setting up kingdoms in Sicily and playing a huge part in the first crusade. They invade in the 11th Century.

So throughout a large period of English history you have a French speaking Norman leadership ruling over Anglo-saxon commoners who speak a kind of proto-english.
 

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Angles and Saxons were Germanic tribes which colonised Briton in the early middle ages and pushed the celts to the perhiphery. England is basically named after the Angles.
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Were the Angles known for their intelligence and vigilance, or would you say they were more obtuse?
 

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I've literally been doing nothing but studying chemistry and biology all day, so I can't give a full cogent response right now because my brain is almost completely fried, but asian countries have lots more wealth disparity than the US. This isn't even debateable. If you're cherry picking Taiwan, Japan and South Korea while ignoring Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, China, India, Cambodia, Laos, etc. by declaring them "undeveloped" so you can pretend they don't exist, then you're introducing a large amount of bias into your evidence, because China and several others on that list most definitely qualify as developed nations.

We could do better, but we spend 80 billion a year to the Department of Education. With our budgets it could always be more, but its hardly starving the beast, as it were. The idea that government would ever willingly

1. Privatize education when its the best way to brainwash your population into believing all sorts of nonsense
2. Privatize education and thus limit the bureaucracy that insulates and sustains bureaucratic power in the organs of governing powers

Is almost as crazy sounding to me as the idea that reptiles from Glaxxon 5 secretly run the planet.

The idea of privatization of education isn't my favorite, but it does produce good students, and I do think forcing parents to have some actual skin in the game they can feel, some cost to them directly to educate their child, might spur them to take a more proactive role in their children's educations. The driving force for parental involvement in children's schooling in Asia comes from the fact that the parents expect the child to help provide for them in old age when they can no longer work. By having skin in the game, their futures literally on the lines of their child's success, it does compel the parents to care a lot more.

Not saying we should go full asian system, but pointing out that there are certainly things we can emulate in our own fashion that would probably help.
 

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I do wish family units were generally more tight knit in America. It just doesn't make sense for me and my family though. Even thought we all live in metro-Detroit being co-located in one house hold just isn't practical because of work locations.