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When should i expect to be able to do vortex dungeons? I assume they are mostly for evo mats but what else do they have?
Right now they are all available and at half stamina cost. Don't do it unless you're evolving something, because you'll get free gems from clearing zones and can use those for summons.

Monday - XP + Karma (this will be important later on)
Tuesday - Lower material evo dungeons (pots, idols spirits, nymphs; used for evolution and usually only lower forms)
Wednesday - Mimics (Mimics, Bat Mimic, Dragon Mimic, and Metal Mimic)
Thursday - Zel (gold/cash)
Friday - Materials (making spheres or items)
Saturday & Sunday - Totems and Keepers (evo materials for midto top tier).

For the big celebrations, they usually run all of the dungeons at the same time (except XP/Karma), and sometimes a 1/2 stamina.

When you can get a bunch of 3 stars you'll be able to do the evo dungeons and level 1 & 2 mimics easily. Hell, your friends can probably carry you through it.
Level 3 mimcs may hurt a bit.
5* through keeper (miracle might be a bit higher), and the last level of the
6* + 7* friend for keepers.



Also fuck metal mimics. 20 runs so far on lvl1, none found yet.
 

Ishad

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Halloween spheres had their type changed to attack up. My arena team has been upgraded to mega dumb.

Bestie: Sky harbinger, shiny anklet
Krantz: occult, sacred treasure
Totesu: spirit tiara, death axe
Selena: lexida, Halloween sphere
Zenia: obsidian amplifier, Halloween sphere.

So zenia,Selena,and bestie have 3x hits.

Annoyed by semira in raids, she should be an amazing unit there but her attack animation is so bad, you can't spark shit.
 

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Right now they are all available and at half stamina cost. Don't do it unless you're evolving something, because you'll get free gems from clearing zones and can use those for summons.

Monday - XP + Karma (this will be important later on)
Tuesday - Lower material evo dungeons (pots, idols spirits, nymphs; used for evolution and usually only lower forms)
Wednesday - Mimics (Mimics, Bat Mimic, Dragon Mimic, and Metal Mimic)
Thursday - Zel (gold/cash)
Friday - Materials (making spheres or items)
Saturday & Sunday - Totems and Keepers (evo materials for midto top tier).

For the big celebrations, they usually run all of the dungeons at the same time (except XP/Karma), and sometimes a 1/2 stamina.
What's my best bet for exp fodder to level my team with?
 

Ishad

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What's my best bet for exp fodder to level my team with?
Quest fodder is for bb leveling. Leveling your units, either use 5 metal keys in the crystal parade dungeon. (30 energy per run at 1/2 energy events,grants 7k xp, so do it when you can level)

And save your honor points for super honor summons.
 

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Quest fodder is for bb leveling. Leveling your units, either use 5 metal keys in the crystal parade dungeon. (30 energy per run at 1/2 energy events,grants 7k xp, so do it when you can level)

And save your honor points for super honor summons.
Should I combine shitty quest trash with other trash or just feed directly for exp?
 

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Should I combine shitty quest trash with other trash or just feed directly for exp?
Feed directly. Feel free to sell it if you get low on cash (thought that will quickly not be a problem).

edit:

Sorry, I should explain:

there are 3 types of "Brave Bursts":

Attack
Heal (Recovery)
Support (Buff)

I listed them in that order because they use that as a hierarchy if they have multiple aspects. Krantz has attack/heal/buff for his SBB, but you use attack BB fodder to raise it. MAKE SURE YOU MATCH TYPES. It doesn't matter right now (because it's not TRULY important until the unit is at max evolution), but it's a good habit to get into. When you evolve a unit, it's BB level is reduce to by half. Also, the cost for leveling increases per level of the unit, but is reduced at max level (to the equivalent of level 25, I think).

Quest fodder gives shit-tier experience, so you can sell them unless you are doing BB fodder. What you want to do is go to Imperial Capital Randall every weekday and get your two metal keys (jewel keys on wednesdays). Use 5 of them to open up the Mega Metal Parade, and proceed to wreck shit (bring a friend Zenia, as her BB [not SBB] has defense ignore and will oneshot anything in the Metal Parades).
Be careful on the metal parades, as they are 60 stamina per run (and give 7k xp) and they only stay AVAILABLE for 30 MINUTES.
Right now they are 30 because of the 1/2 Energy Vortex special event. It's usually smart to stack stamina refills around doing Mega Metal Parades..


Also, there is a trick where if you don't have stamina, you can get to the point JUST before you enter the dungeon (where it would tell you that you can use a gem to refill stamina), and wait until your energy is high enough to enter it to enter it. They don't check if your "timer" expired when you log in. So do a few, level, do a few to zero stam, get back to the dungeon page, go to sleep, get up, do another run.

edit: jesus christ I keep writing novella posts.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Ok, I've put this off as long as I can, and I need some last minute advice on which free unit to register for:

While I use a crap-ton of specialty groups depending on content, my current all-purpose go to group looks something like this:


Zenia(Lead)
Aurelia
Libera
*either*HadaronorKafkadepending on needs/mood
Gazia

Griff(Friend Lead) if doing anything that matters, random leads if grinding through anything on auto.



The options I was most considering (although open to others) are:

Chrome(huge spark lead with +HP to replace Zenia who is still awesome but clashes with Gazia)
Zedus(Lacks +HP, lacks any trace of +BC, but mega-damage god still)
Krantz(This fuckin' guy. If I got him, I'd have to decide if he replaces Gazia or if I run a dual-mitigator setup. Having Gazia definitely took my desire for Krantz down a couple pegs)

Honorable mentions:

Avant(amazing leadership skills but clashes badly elsewhere)
Griff(Great Character still, but suffers from being a Crit focused character which is either A) Amazing or B) a Liability.....not sure if I'd be better off just using friend leads where I can with Griff)
Charla(*amazing* set of buffs....but does NOT attack. This puts her into Elimo status....god-tier character that gets used maybe 1% or 2% of the time....then again, with Elimo that is a pretty damned important 1%-2%)


Granted, my current all purpose squad has buff clashes all over the damn place and I haven't re-engineered it yet. I have Paris waiting in the wings for her 7-star so Nadore would be a bit of a waste. Dolk deserves an honorable mention, but with Gazia and Krantz in the mix, + Edea as an option for FG3, he's hard to put on the list. Although I still want a Shida, without knowing if the 7-star version is going to be worth a damn when it comes out, not sure I want to use this rare opportunity on a 6-star, even one as unique as Shida.

I think that covers my primary options. I guess I'm leaning toward Chrome atm just to replace Zenia (I don't know for sure, but Zenia may well bring the higher damage potential here still, but she clashes with Gazia and lacks +HP on her leadership skill).

All-in-all this whole thing feels a little anti-climactic to me. Right now there is no single character I'm drooling over (Not like Krantz in the pre-Gazia days or even Bestie once-upon-a-time) Zedus is still heroic but I'd miss the +BB on Spark that Zenia/Chrome etc offers and he has no +HP on his leadership skill either. Chrome hasn't really even been on my radar, but he might end up being my first choice.

Kinda wish they'd have released the God Gate before this so I could know for sure I wasn't just signing up for a dupe :p that'll suck.

Any thoughts? I wanna get this done today so there are no issues.





Edit: Still very strongly considering Zedus just for general whoop-ass-ery.... Besides Zenias +BB% clash with Gazia, she's still fantastic....and Zedus can still bring all kinds of awesome to the table as a Sub, so the "All damage but nothing else" nature of his Leadership skills may not be as much of a liability overall.

Leaning toward Zedus again now
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Edit: Then again, between Gazias +BB% buff and Zedus spark buff, Zenia's SBB would be obsolete even with Zedus as a Sub......godsdamnit, my Zenia looks doomed no matter what. Fuck.
 

Ishad

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Thoughts:
Chrome- unlikely to ever be used as a sub, 100% borrowable from your friends list.
Zedus v Avant- damage leads for raids, fg, fh. Everywhere you would lead zedus you would lead avant. Avant is better for rc5/6 because he has hp so you can run double damage ls.
Krantz v Dolk- unsure on this one.EDIT: whoops, Dolk has atk to def coversion, so he clashes with Aurelia.
Griff- I'm planning on using Kira as my crit buffer for my avant squad. Would like but it is too hard to pass on avant.
Avant- ls so good, if I ever have a unit with a better ls he likely goes in the trash. Still picked him.
Charla- has all the buffs, doesn't attack. Getting all the buffs isn't that hard these days. There aren't really pure nuking units to compensate for damage loss.

Bias disclosure: I don't like gazia, his animation is bad, his damage suffers when you aren't ohko things, and his ls hurts in competitive damage races that are raids. He's a good unit but not a unit to build squads around unless you don't have better options.
 

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Guessing I should pick Krantz if Shera is still my mitigator? Not that it matters, since I'm assured of pulling whatever unit I pick on my first summon thereafter.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Until the gate decides to spit something useful out, my problem is this:

I can either get Krantz and be rid of the issues Gazia brings to the table, but still be stuck with Zenia......or I can get Zedus/Avant/Chrome to replace Zenia as lead but still be stuck with Gazia as mitigator. Both bring some unfortunate buff clashes to the table, no avoiding it. ....no matter what though, I'm stuck with one of the two, and all the issues/buff clashes they bring to the table.
 

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pulled a zedus during the Global rate up for 4 gems... still went with Avant as my unit.
 

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Until the gate decides to spit something useful out, my problem is this:

I can either get Krantz and be rid of the issues Gazia brings to the table, but still be stuck with Zenia......or I can get Zedus/Avant/Chrome to replace Zenia as lead but still be stuck with Gazia as mitigator. Both bring some unfortunate buff clashes to the table, no avoiding it. ....no matter what though, I'm stuck with one of the two, and all the issues/buff clashes they bring to the table.
Yeah, fair enough, but I don't think Krantz is as ambiguous a choice for me because I don't have a decent squad anymore to start with. I'm not worried about clashes.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Yeah, fair enough, but I don't think Krantz is as ambiguous a choice for me because I don't have a decent squad anymore to start with. I'm not worried about clashes.
Well, in complete fairness, I was actually replying to Ishad.....I just decided to live dangerously and not post a quote. Bit me right in the ass, it did!
 

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Spooge: take krantz. He's a wunderkid.
Leto: Avant. Krantz+Zenia is worse than dealing with Gazius as your mitigator.
 

Leto Eu`Acumen

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Spooge: take krantz. He's a wunderkid.
Leto: Avant. Krantz+Zenia is worse than dealing with Gazius as your mitigator.
In fairness, I actually like Gazia. Yea, his attack animation doesn't allow for optimum sparking, but he's still a hellacious (if not a tad odd) combination of offense and defense. I've only rarely used him in a Leadership position though. ...That said, I'm sure if i had him, I'd be all over Krantz, he's still a perfect fit for my roster.

The thing that balances out the Chrome vs Avant/Zedus dilemma with me is that I've long been addicted to 100% +BC on spark. Ever since Rosetta when I was running nothing but 6-stars....Never got a Raaga, but as soon as I got Zenia, she was insta-leader and barely spent a second out of that slot since. There was a period inbetween Rosetta and Zenia where I ran "other" leaders, but those were dark times my friend. Dark times indeed.


Regarding Avant: His Leadership Skills are off the charts...mind-blowingly good. Not doubting that, only reason he's on my list.... But his SBB would be almost useless in my group. The conversion buff would be a waste. The +BB% buff would be a waste (worse, it would overwrite a stronger one). The only thing Avant's SBB would do for my group is 25% Chance of 25% Spark damage (1 turn)....and I know I suck at 11th dimensional Brave Frontier math, but that doesn't sound good. Still debating with myself if his Leadership skill can justify his SBB on my squad.

I see pros and cons with every decent option, but they are all unappealing in their own way.