Breaking Bad
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Tuco
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The hug is symbolic of Walt's relationship with Jesse. He genuinely cares for Jesse but he really needs Jesse to do certain things and manipulates Jesse into doing it. It's the same story with his wife and son and before the last few episodes Hank.
One aspect of Walt that enables him to be the protagonist is that he doesn't loathe any character or necessarily want to do them harm. He appears to only kill out of what he feels is necessity or for the greater good. He felt bad about Jane as he watched her die and only killed Mike because he panicked.
On the other hand it's his conceited desire to be powerful that's the impetus for having to do all this shady shit.
One aspect of Walt that enables him to be the protagonist is that he doesn't loathe any character or necessarily want to do them harm. He appears to only kill out of what he feels is necessity or for the greater good. He felt bad about Jane as he watched her die and only killed Mike because he panicked.
On the other hand it's his conceited desire to be powerful that's the impetus for having to do all this shady shit.
Cantatus
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I loved how that actuallywasstill a confession. Up until that point, Walt and Skyler were still trying to push the fiction that Hank was mistaken and that it was "all in the past", and they likely would've continued with that had Hank looked like he was going to back off. But underneath all of the lies about Hank, it's the first time Walt admits that he ran a meth lab and worked with Gus Fring. Since Hank knows which things are outright fabrications, it's easy for him to separate out which parts are true (including the money being used for his medical care), which gives Hank the confirmation he wanted, but nothing he can do with it.
khalid
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Such a great episode. My jaw fucking dropped at that tape, I did not see that coming. I cannot see how Hank gets around it, if something like that ever leaked to the news media or got in the hands of a law enforcement agency his life would be over. I can't imagine the type of proof that he would need to get beyond that, as it fits so fucking perfectly with events. It would be far more believable that Hank was the mastermind than Walt for pretty much everyone who hears of it.
Just so goddamn perfect, I can't see how this doesn't completely stop Hank yet I can't imagine Hank will give up.
Just so goddamn perfect, I can't see how this doesn't completely stop Hank yet I can't imagine Hank will give up.
Tuco
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The reason I don't really buy that is because if Hank was such a mastermind why would he need to bum a few bucks from Walt?
Royal
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I to think that the hug was genuine, but I read the look on Walt's face as the beginnings of the realization that he just might have to "send him to Belize" if he wouldn't disappear on his own.
Oh, and in Talking Bad that followed, Gilligan's peak into the next episode was that the White family goes on a nice staycation. Maybe Saul makes a second call for a new air filter.
Oh, and in Talking Bad that followed, Gilligan's peak into the next episode was that the White family goes on a nice staycation. Maybe Saul makes a second call for a new air filter.
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The way the tape played to me was that it WAS a confession, wrapped up in a big ball of blackmail. The way Walt emphasized the word "Hank" several times right before describing something that he (Walt) had done. It was like a big "fuck you, here's all the shit I've done, Hank" but using Hank's name in such a way that Hank KNEW he was being both confessed to and blackmailed in one masterful video. Fucking excellent storytelling.
Kuriin
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A lot of different things could be speculated. I mean, at that point, Hank was against Gus (according to Walt's story), so he could have used all the money. Dunno. Problem is, is that it's drug money that is used after Hank gets almost murdered by Gus' henchmen.
IMHO, Walt's a fucking genius with that confession.
chaos
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Nah, the story would fall apart inevitably, but it would be more than enough to ruin his career. The only thing of substance in the entire tape was the insurance money, which itself raises questions about why a drug kingpin needs help paying his medical bills from his indentured employee. It was just blackmail, Walt's way of saying that if he goes down he burns EVERYONE.
khalid
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I don't think the doubt would ever be removed. It fits pretty much all the available facts and presents a far more believable story than the real one (that Hank, using his DEA contacts and information, was able to deal with any problems).
The alternative view, that this schoolteacher did all the masterminding in front of Hank would be just so hard to believe for so many people.
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Hank also doesn't really know anything. With his limited information it would be hard to combat the accusations levied against him.
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I didn't get the impression that he bummed the money but instead made Walt pay for it. Just a means of reminding him that he was his bitch. That is at least the impression I got from the fake confession video.
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This was my point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the video the first time Hank actually had confirmation of some of the things he'd suspected Walt had been doing? It's been a while since I've watched earlier seasons, but my impression was that some of the info Walt was putting out there, Hank only suspected him of but didn't KNOW. Not until Walt's confession.
chaos
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Maybe not, but nothing would ever come of it because there is no evidence. Meanwhile I imagine there is plenty of evidence of Walt being involved that he has missed. In the real world, not tv world. Shit, the money alone, how long does the whole "gambling" story hold up to how they won 800k+ to buy the damn car wash? Digging into Walt reveals more and more questions. But Hank, how would you even begin to prove any of those allegations? Beyond the insurance money, there is nothing there.
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I really, really, reallllly hope that the entire writing team behind Breaking Bad stays together and starts a new project. It could be about a space princesses journey for the perfect fashion accessories and I would watch the shit out of that.
"Ohhhh no she didn't?! Did Princess Butternut REALLY just show up in the same dress as Princess Candypants?!?! I did not see that coming! What are Hank and the rest of the fashion police supposed to do??!?! That's his fucking fiance!"
GOLD.
"Ohhhh no she didn't?! Did Princess Butternut REALLY just show up in the same dress as Princess Candypants?!?! I did not see that coming! What are Hank and the rest of the fashion police supposed to do??!?! That's his fucking fiance!"
GOLD.
iannis
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Yeah. The confession is enough to burn hank for life, not enough to put hank in a jail cell. But hank is already burned and he knows he's already burned even without the blackmail. So maybe hank gathers something irrefutable (I have no idea what), shows the confession and his one piece of evidence to his mexicant buddy and says, "avenge my career suicide".
It stops hank from doing anything official. It does not stop hank from taking a gun and burying walt in the desert.
Given that hank has faced this exact choice before -- using the confession as evidence to his own detriment isn't so left field insane. It's something that Hank might actually do, if he can just assure himself that Gonzalez will -actually- believe him.
It stops hank from doing anything official. It does not stop hank from taking a gun and burying walt in the desert.
Given that hank has faced this exact choice before -- using the confession as evidence to his own detriment isn't so left field insane. It's something that Hank might actually do, if he can just assure himself that Gonzalez will -actually- believe him.