Breaking Bad

Talos_sl said:

Well he mentioned how Hank had a falling out with Gus, which may imply Gus was holding a bunch of money he owed Hank. Another hole to the "confession" is Hank was being very open with his coworkers about his suspicions of Gus, and that just doesn't make sense if he's also working with him.

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Can explain it as a plot to take Gus down after the falling out, because Hank didn't start investigating Gus until after the hit. I mean, it fits together really well.

Hank destroys the competition locally. He goes down south, and all the DEA there are killed to make way for Gustavo's war against the cartels, except him (Inside Man). Back at home Jessie is snitching about Hank's abuse of Walter to Gustavo--so Hank beats Jessie down....Gustavo sees Hank stepped out of line and hurt Jessie, so he orders a hit on Hank. Hank survives the hit but his money is gone, Gus takes it, so Hank takes Walt's money for recovery. Then Hank has his "revelation" and starts investigating Gustavo after the hit, even when ordered not to by the DEA (Will now be assumed it was retribution for the hit). When Hank can't make anything stick and is forced to back off by the DEA--another tip about a possible hit came in and Hank was defended by the DEA. Now that will look like Hank was planning to war with Gustavo after he exhausted his corrupt legal route (Hank knew Salamanca--so Hank planted the bomb while using the DEA as bodyguards.)

A lot of loose ends created by Hank's Sherlock Holmes and extreme luck (Surviving the bomb) like abilities would be neatly filled in by him being dirty.

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Tuco_sl said:

The reason I don't really buy that is because if Hank was such a mastermind why would he need to bum a few bucks from Walt?

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Who says it was "bummed" from Walt? All they know is he paid 170k cash. Plus, it's not far fetched to think he would have the money go through Walt. Nobody would be paying attention to his finances, while a DEA making millions would throw up all sorts of red flags

That is the brilliance of the tape. Any "discrepancies" will be put as just Hank knowing enough about DEA procedures to cover things up. Hank going after Gus? Reverse psychology to cover his own ass. Needing the $170k? Walt was the one doing the laundering. The clincher is that it is almost impossible to believe that both Walt could be the mastermind and that Hank didn't catch on. That barrier will be almost impossible for any law enforcement to get past.

I mean, it isn't like they need any real evidence pointing to Hank to railroad the fuck out of him. All the government needs to ruin someone's life is suspicion and sometimes that is even enough to get convictions. Check out even totally innocent people like Richard Jewell (in his case, he was acually a hero!).

Talos_sl said:

The whole thing at the end with Jesse connecting the dots seemed like a big stretch. Even if he remembered the first time being pick-pocketed, why would he think that had anything to do with Brock when the doctors said it was that plant? Was he just mad about being manipulated by Walt into turning against Gus?

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How could he not? Brock just happens to get poisoned at the exact time when it benefits Walt the most, with the substance that Walt just happens to be certain that Jesse can identify the symptoms of. Once he realizes he didn't just happen to lose the ricin, it was stolen, that invites a million other questions that all point to Walt. All he knows is "The lawyer fucking stole my ricin and then Brock got sick" so he confronts Saul with hisrage and fury and Saul straight confirmed it in his pants-shitting fearmode.

To me, it makes sense. He may not have been 100%, but he knew enough to know that he was being played somehow and that Saul (who is Walt's bitch) did it. Saul confirmed his fears and now Jesse is going apeshit.

Any chance Jessie kills Walt Jr. if they meet during operation burn the house down?

Daly_sl said:

Any chance Jessie kills Walt Jr. if they meet during operation burn the house down?

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Jesse's in a deep depression over the things he's participated in. I can't imagine him killing a 16-17 year old kid with cerebral palsy at this point.

Of course, there's no way he could have known Walt Jr and Holly weren't home when he busted in to burn the place down in the first place. This season seems to be one holy shit moment after another, so I'd say everything's on the table

Tuco_sl said:

For now I'll stick with the theory that Jesse doesn't light the match.

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Theory? They showed the house, distinctly unburntdown, in the season opener thing in the future.

Tuco_sl said:

No way Jesse kills Walt Jr or Holly. Accidentally or otherwise.

Holly wouldn't be home alone and Walt Jr would hear Jesse's dumbass stomping around the house. Though if Walt Jr and Holly do die in a fire created by Jesse that'd be devastating in so many ways. I would be a little surprised that the conversation about the kid's safety in Walt's home doesn't get some play with Jesse tryign to burn the home down.

For now I'll stick with the theory that Jesse doesn't light the match.

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I was more in the line of thinking Walt Jr. walked in coming home from somewhere else while he was spreading the gasoline. Another thought would be maybe he shows up and Jesse comes to realize what he's doing is "fucked up" and leaves. I dunno just kinda brainstorming.

Grimmlokk_sl said:

Theory? They showed the house, distinctly unburntdown, in the season opener thing in the future.

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Exactly, he doesn't go through with it.

My guess is he's about to light the match but turns to look down the hallway and sees Walt Jr standing there. They both stare at each other in silence for a moment, then maybe we hear Holly start to cry from her room. Jesse is in shock and horrified with what he was about to do and just leaves.

My theory is that Walt figures out what Jesse is doing and runs home and murderfies him.

I just don't see Jesse walking away from this. I'll be disappointed if he does since half of that episode was Jesse being told "walk away and live" and Jesse not walking away.

No way they left their baby at home alone with their teenage son with cerebal palsy.

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http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/88p7

LOL. That was fucking amazing.

Are we going to have to make a no pussy shit Breaking Bad thread now? Should I stop reading this thread? No way I'm clicking that link.

It's clean. It's Dean Norris with a fake script. It's hysterical. I highly recommend it./