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I'm not actually attempting toproveanything. I said from the start that 'white privilege' is a bullshit term to begin with. I'm just proposing arguments that might not be considered by a group of people who share a relatively homogeneous white male perspective on society.
Lol, get the fuck out.

That's exactly the problem. Everyone else has to 'prove themselves'firstjust to get to certain baseline assumptions white males automatically make of other white males (who don't look like meth addicts.)

It's not a huge thing, but it's a small thing that adds up to a cumulative advantage over a large number of interactions.
That's the problem. You keep making this personal.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm a erudite white woman who's been steeped in academia for the past 14 years, and probably will be for the rest of my life. I totally understand my privilege and the whole coastal, liberal, northeastern academic culture where it comes from.

I just also think that society would progress to a better place faster if other people had less hurdles and biases to overcome just to get to the point where they can start contributing to society. That's the entire point of my argument from the start.
And who's more likely to be in this class?

You're making my point for me. EVERYONE ON EARTH is in some way a victim of hundreds of years of cumulative white male privilege, even other white males. The sooner you realize that being born a white male just raises your likelihood of being top slave, instead of deluding yourself into thinking that if you work hard enough you'll get to be one of the slave masters, the sooner we can get this shit sorted out.
It's not in his head. The progressive agenda has worked. It has started leveling shit out in the middle of the spectrum fairly well. Unfortunately, this whole time we've been ignoring the growth of an intractable oligarchy at the top end of the spectrum, almost entirely composed of white males. And instead of admitting how fucked up that is, we're arguing over whether said oligarchs do or don't confer advantages to people who look and talk like them.
Because the people who refuse to admit that privilege exists are also most likely to pretend the oligarchy doesn't exist, and that the world we live in is some kind of meritocracy.

Some of them do it actively, thinking that if they pretend the privilege doesn't exist, their chances of being top slave go up, while others do it passively out of sheer blindness.
I'm not doing this. All I'm saying is that being a white male is statistically likely to confer a long series of very small but very real advantages that add up over the course of one's lifetime. And that because of this, many white men have pretended for a long time thatshit isn't fucked. Now that it's painfully obvious to everyone with a brain that saidshit IS fucked, they're suddenly going "privilege? what privilege? I'm in the same shit as you guys."

What're YOU'RE trying to say is that because you're no more likely to be one of these oligarchs than I am, that somehow means that privilege doesn't exist. And I guess what I'm saying is that what "privilege" REALLY means is exactly that, special privileges that one class of slave is being given over the rest of the slaves. It's like when the fucking uncle toms pretended that the slave owners weren't racist fucks, and it drove everyone else with a brain fucking insane.
 

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He's free to setup his own White Male Internet Gamer and Titty Forum Lovers Scholarship Fund. It's a free country.
Yeah what a fucking lie that is.

Black privilege is having an advocacy group for advancement of black people (i know they say colored, but its basically blacks only). White privilege is to defend yourself against never ending charges of racism even though you never did anything racist in your life. Or against never ending charges of rape.
 

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Really? So that means it would be OK to set up a White College Fund, White Entertainment Television and the National Association for the Advancement of White People? Is that part of that white privilege I supposedly have?

You're such a 2 faced double standard cunt.

As far as affirmative action goes, colleges have used racial quotas for a long time and race is considered a factor when deciding admittance, its a minus for whites and a plus for everyone else. I'd love to see you argue it otherwise.
A college can, and will, be sued if they use quotas. They can only set vague diversity goals and timelines.

As for the other things... it's not a double standard. Basicallyeverythingis White Entertainment Television. Every late-night host is now a white male again, now that Arsenio is fired again. BET is not racist, it's capitalism. You find an under-served audience and you go after it. Why do you hate capitalism?

National Association for the Advancement of White People? Sounds like Wall Street + Congress.

I do have a bit of a problem with racial or gendered scholarship funds. I'm not sure it should be illegal, but I definitely wouldn't mind if it was. Good luck getting it outlawed, as then all the religious scholarship funds would have to go too.
 

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Lol, get the fuck out.
That's the vocabulary that was chosen when the thread was started, before I joined. I was keeping a consistent vocabulary. If I had started the thread, I would have used a different vocabulary.
 

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You think rape and gendercide of males is awesome? Feminism at its finest.
I think a world where my only responsibility is to fuck and there are 90% less assholes like you sounds pretty nice, ya. I still have Nintendo, right?
 

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For the record, I don't endorse the genocide and rape of men, nor have I ever.

For the record.
 

Palum

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That's the vocabulary that was chosen when the thread was started, before I joined. I was keeping a consistent vocabulary. If I had started the thread, I would have used a different vocabulary.
So as long as you are preaching the tenets with synonyms you aren't supporting them. Got it.
 

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I think a world where my only responsibility is to fuck and there are 90% less assholes like you sounds pretty nice, ya. I still have Nintendo, right?
You think a groveling feminine beta like you would be one of the 10%?

HAHAHA.
 

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I think a world where my only responsibility is to fuck and there are 90% less assholes like you sounds pretty nice, ya. I still have Nintendo, right?
If sexist assholes were to vanish en masse, then sadly , no, Nintendo and any other Japanese company would probably not still be around.
 

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A world filled with women sounds terrible, could you imagine the mmo player base? Nothing but house decorators and jewelcrafters.
 

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1.) men more or less do ALL of the manual labor. I know that if I ruled everything the first thing I would do would be to make society in such a way that I have to do all the fucking hard back breaking work.
2.) men are a vast majority of suicides. Gee those stupid fucking men, they built society for their own benefit at the expense of women and they cant even stand to live in it.
3.) men are more likely to be the victims of every type of violence except spousal homicide.
4.) often times it is pointed out that black folks are more likely to be charged and convicted of crimes, more likely to face jail time, and face harsher sentences. This is proof of an institutional bias in the justice system. It's called racist as it should be. Well men as a group are more disadvantaged when compared to women in those catagories than black people are when compared to whites. The justice system is not only racist, it's also misandrist.
5.) men graduate at lower rates at every level of education that women.
6.) DV/IPV is nearly gender symmetrical, with much of the violence being mutual, a majority of it being initiated by women, and yet almost all resources go towards women, and many if not most (not sure never seen a statistic on this part) of those shelters outright ban men.
7.) men are the majority of work place fatalities.
8.) men work 56% of the hours worked
9.) even though men work 56% of the hours and make 56.5% of the money (a 77 cent wage gap would mean that that dollar the 77 cents is being compared to makes up 56.49% of the total, 1.77) the wage gap is still seen as a major issue that requires legislation, that proves patriarchy etc. surely the .49% men make can be explained with other variables like, how many consecutive years they've been working in the same field, what fields they choose to go
9b.) people, mostly feminists, will point out that women make less because they spend more time with the children. but surveys have shown that fathers would spend more time with their children if they could... but they have to work. And lets be honest. would you rather be at work or with your kid
10.) sometimes people will point out how gender roles negatively affect women, what they often don't realize is that de jure or de facto restrictions on women, like being forced to be a house wife back in the day, had de facto restrictions on men. if women were forced to be house wives then men were forced to be providers as a result. restrictive gender roles hurt everyone, not just women.
10b.) if you wish to claim that gender rules harm men but oppress women, give proof. No I do not accept "cuz patriarchy" as proof, thats circular reasoning.
11.) Male genital mutilation is still legal and common
12.) men most often lose their children in divorce.
13.) Men have no reproductive rights, if it is wrong to force a woman to be a mother for 9 months, then its wrong to force a man to be a provider for 18 years.
14.) Men can be put in prison if they don't pay child support or alimony.

15.) men do not have the right to a paternity test if they are on the hook for child support, for some reason this is seen as a womens rights issue, a privacy issue even though the man has to pay money or go to prison.
16.) men cannot be baby sitters, day care workers, preschool, elementary school teachers, or other wise wish to spend time with children, sometimes even their own children, without being suspected of being a child abuser, child rapist, pedophile etc. Even in cases where the man did not seek it out. For instance when there is an unaccompanied minor traveling, if they are seated next to a man, that man will be moved and a woman put in his spot. even though......
17.) women are the majority of child abusers, and yet men are seen as a threat to children.
18.) when women fuck up it's the fault of society, of patriarchy, of men. When men fuck up it's their own fault.
19.) women women are victimized, it's the fault of society, of patriarchy, of men. When men are victimized they are largely ignored, blamed, or it's treated as a good thing (like when a boy is raped by his teacher people often comment how awesome and lucky the kid is. )
20.) even though the CDC reports near equal levels of rape of men and women (if you count being forced to have sex against your will as rape which I do but some feminists dont, like the feminist the CDC consulted who conviently defined rape in such a way so as to exclude male rape victims into a catagory of "other sexual violence"), throw in prison populations and men are the majority of rape victims, and yet some people claim it's impossible for women to rape, that rape never or rarely happens to men. male victims also don't get nearly the same level of resources as female victims.
 

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wrap your brain around this one


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