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Mist

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Why are you all about masculizing women then? Why are you trying to destroy civilization?

But seriously, I find it interesting that you keep using the term "feminized". It's not by accident, I'm sure and you think you're being antagonistic (and it says a lot about your general attitude on the subject). Softening of facial features and slightly less testosterone doesn't make one more feminine. I know you love sliding scales, so would you refer to some men you see today with less prominent brow ridges "feminine"?

Anyway, I know your type. Kids probably made fun of you early on in school so you built up this "I'm such a tough, mean, hateful person" persona in a desperate attempt to feel like it was you who was in control of people not liking you and not the other way around. Truth is, people would probably like you if you didn't act like such an asshole
I'm definitely not all about 'masculizing' women, since I'm mostly attracted to femmes.
 

iannis

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Oh my god, I almost vomited this pickle thinking about Shellys period blood.

Sometimes the dog will turn on you and then you realize that wasn't a dog at all, that was a wolf.
 

Sebudai

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I'm surprised we haven't heard more about the Christy Mack/Warmachine beating in this thread (and others like it elsewhere), since that's a legitimate example of actual rape culture. I know many feminists are still perpetually confused by and are constantly tap dancing around the whole "slut shaming is bad!"/"objectifying women is bad!" dichotomy, but is that the reason we haven't heard more about it from them? Seems like a pretty clear case of patriarchy and rape culture to me.
 

Mist

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There's also the whole sex work is empowering/sex work is degrading to women schism in feminism as well.
 

Jive Turkey

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I'm definitely not all about 'masculizing' women, since I'm mostly attracted to femmes.
It was a joke
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^ that's what a winky face looks like here? Christ
 

Jive Turkey

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I'm surprised we haven't heard more about the Christy Mack/Warmachine beating in this thread (and others like it elsewhere), since that's a legitimate example of actual rape culture. I know many feminists are still perpetually confused by and are constantly tap dancing around the whole "slut shaming is bad!"/"objectifying women is bad!" dichotomy, but is that the reason we haven't heard more about it from them? Seems like a pretty clear case of patriarchy and rape culture to me.
War Machine is a fucking lunatic. The guy has been running across the globe for the last several years getting in trouble with the law everywhere he stops. I'm not sure it's fair to throw people with serious mental issues in the mix with "rape culture". He's a piece of shit, don't get me wrong. I just don't think it's productive
 

Srathor

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Nah no Shelly. My dick has pretty low standards but thankfully it can't open doors or drive yet so I should be safe leading it around.

Personally I think we should let the feminists take over, let them see what it is like for a few decades. Maybe then we could actually talk to each other after the hard core ones realise it does not matter if a dick is in charge or a vagina, assholes are still assholes.

Everyone gets the raw end of the deal. Sure the slut gets shamed, but then again the macho (wolf whistling) dude that you hate probably goes home to a dumb as a brick, shrew ass wife too at the end of the day. That slimy ass manager that you hate, is getting cuckolded on the side by the gardner and the poolboy at the same time. The uptight christ fearing wasp dipshit that lives next door is quite likely getting rogered by his mousey 2 phd having, strapon wielding half asian trophy wife too.

Fuck the feminists, they need it.

Fuck the macho dudes if you swing that way too.

If you know some rape culture bro, make friends with him, drug his shit, and drop him off at a biker bar with rapist on his foreskin. Or forehead. Whatever.

Or sit and bitch, like the over educated dried up cunt that everyone was born to be. Even if you are a dude, you are likely still a cunt. Or some other hateful term. Pick one you don't like the most and pretend I used that one.

Oh and have a nice day.
 

Sebudai

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War Machine is a fucking lunatic. The guy has been running across the globe for the last several years getting in trouble with the law everywhere he stops. I'm not sure it's fair to throw people with serious mental issues in the mix with "rape culture". He's a piece of shit, don't get me wrong. I just don't think it's productive
I'm referring to his fanbase as much as him. I was reading his Twitter feed the other night and it was just surreal to me. Maybe it's just the internet effect and a lot of these people are trolling, but all I could think about was that this isactualrape culture. My initial foray into this thread was essentially complaining about how these concepts like patriarchy and rape culture--which have a core of truth to them--are being abused and are basically used as magic wands to explain away any and every slight to women everywhere no matter the context. I don't like how these concepts are being abused. I think doing so is pseudoscientific, and more importantly counterproductive in terms of accomplishing the political goals of the feminist movement. But. There actually is a rape culture and this particular situation was a perfect example of it, in my opinion.
 

Jive Turkey

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I'm referring to his fanbase as much as him. I was reading his Twitter feed the other night and it was just surreal to me. Maybe it's just the internet effect and a lot of these people are trolling, but all I could think about was that this isactualrape culture. My initial foray into this thread was essentially complaining about how these concepts like patriarchy and rape culture--which have a core of truth to them--are being abused and are basically used as magic wands to explain away any and every slight to women everywhere no matter the context. I don't like how these concepts are being abused. I think doing so is pseudoscientific, and more importantly counterproductive in terms of accomplishing the political goals of the feminist movement. But. There actually is a rape culture and this particular situation was a perfect example of it, in my opinion.
Oh, I haven't looked at his twitter or anything like that, but I can imagine. I love MMA, but fuck can it be embarrassing to admit sometimes; a good percentage of the fans are the worst. And going to an event is like swimming through a sea of greaseballs.
My problem is the term "rape culture" (apart from it being applied liberally wherever one sees fit) is the implication that our society is a rape culture (as opposed to a rape culture existing within our society). I think you might be using it in the way that I would prefer, but it almost seems like rape subculture would get more to the point and rustle fewer jimmies
 

iannis

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So there's a roided out MMA fighter promoting open misogyny among roided out wannabe MMA fighters?


MMA fans are a bunch of closet faggots to begin with.

Lets watch some sweaty dudes roll around and grab each others nuts.

Uh huh.

It's the art of the physical discipline involved.

Uh huh.
 

Jive Turkey

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So there's a roided out MMA fighter promoting open misogyny among roided out wannabe MMA fighters?


MMA fans are a bunch of closet faggots to begin with.

Lets watch some sweaty dudes roll around and grab each others nuts.

Uh huh.

It's the art of the physical discipline involved.

Uh huh.
Hey! They don't grab each others nuts
 

mkopec

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http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/27206.aspx

Next up? Getting rid of competition in the workplace, because women.


The study suggests that men benefit creatively from going head-to-head with other groups, while groups of women operate better in less competitive situations. As intergroup competition heats up, men become more creative and women less so."Women contributed less and less to the team's creative output when the competition between teams became cutthroat, and this fall-off was most pronounced in teams composed entirely of women," Baer said.

The findings are counterintuitive because previous research has shown that women generally are more collaborative than men when working in teams."If teams work side by side, women tend to perform better and even outperform men - they're more creative," Baer said."As soon as you add the element of competition though, the picture changes. Men under those circumstances gel together. They become more interdependent and more collaborative, and women just do the opposite.
 

Agraza

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Well it's good to have this information I guess. Whether it's behavioral or not, the majority of men and women likely conform to the types studied, so it gives us some awareness of our society. I am hoping that we can find a way to separate fields where we are each strong in while still being comfortable with the crossovers. Society has existed for a long time by reinforcing gender roles, and I'm not sure we can ever truly reverse that trend.

I'm not really bothered by the need for sensitivity to women in the workplace on a certain level. It isn't too much to expect men to be mature and treat co-workers as humans. Unfortunately women in my company seem more prone to acting out for attention than men, and sometimes they will go for negative attention when they can't get positive. That shit is corrosive and annoying. I'd often rather they go be "more productive collaborating with other women". Men and women do tend to segregate themselves, but office work blurs a lot of lines between masculine/feminine and compete/collaborate.
 

Mist

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http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/27206.aspx

Next up? Getting rid of competition in the workplace, because women.


The study suggests that men benefit creatively from going head-to-head with other groups, while groups of women operate better in less competitive situations. As intergroup competition heats up, men become more creative and women less so."Women contributed less and less to the team's creative output when the competition between teams became cutthroat, and this fall-off was most pronounced in teams composed entirely of women," Baer said.

The findings are counterintuitive because previous research has shown that women generally are more collaborative than men when working in teams."If teams work side by side, women tend to perform better and even outperform men - they're more creative," Baer said."As soon as you add the element of competition though, the picture changes. Men under those circumstances gel together. They become more interdependent and more collaborative, and women just do the opposite.
"Findings are based on an experiment involving male and female college students working together in groups, as well as data gathered in the field from 50 teams of scientists, engineers and technicians at a global oil and gas company."

Not exactly the samples I'd use to measure "creativity." I'd be interested in studying the external validity of their results. Also their working definition of creativity seems to just be "amount of contribution" without regard for quality of contribution.

There's also a lot of economic studies and occupational psychology studies showing that workplace "competition" has never been a particularly good model. In your typical competitive workplace scenario, you have two (or more) teams working on different plans. One of those is then chosen as the winner by management, a group not typically known for having infinite, or even particularly good, foresight. The losing plans are often completely discarded, representing a bunch of wasted money and man hours, when instead you could have had all your resources working to come up with the best plan possible. Depending on the type of product, sometimes having one team that large is impractical, so instead you could still have your smaller teams and then have a reconciliation process at the end to combine the strengths of each plan instead of a competition.
 

Mist

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Society has existed for a long time by reinforcing gender roles, and I'm not sure we can ever truly reverse that trend.
Society has existed for a long time by living in caves, I'm not sure buildings are a good idea.
Society has existed for a long time by wandering around and hunting, I'm not sure this whole growing our own food thing is gonna work out.
Society has existed for a long time under the rule of dynastic monarchs, this representative democracy stuff smells like bullshit to me.
Society has existed for a long time with slavery, that cotton isn't gonna pick itself.
The Catholic Church has existed for a long time by fucking little boys, where the hell are we going to get our sex now?

Change: usually works out okay.