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khalid

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
No the Koran is just a poorly written jumbled mess despite it's message. Regardless if it preached rainbows and butterflies it would still not be worth reading. If you have read it and understood it you most likely read a synopsis.
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Stop hating on Muslims bro.

a_skeleton_03_sl said:
No the middle ground between you and I would agnosticism which is what your kid would most likely choose and as much as it's the cowards way out it makes more sense than anything else if you can't come to grips with the two black and whites you choose the grey.
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I know it is desperately important to you that atheism be categorized as a religion, but it simply isn't.
 
Jive Turkey

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I know that atheism isn't a religion. The way you are claiming you would teach your kids though would just put it in the pile with all the religions. You can't just tell somebody about all the religions and they will magically see it is too complicated and pick atheism unless you are presenting that alongside your presentation of all the religions therefore making it sound like just one of the religions. You are also basically saying your imaginary kid would realize that all these beliefs are too complicated and would pick the easiest one aka atheism. Your kid is just slow and stupid and doesn't want to think about it. That is what you are saying. You should have said you would present the flaws in all the religions and tell him that they are all wrong. That is how you 'indoctrinate' this kid. There belief would be firmly rooted in facts instead of just picking atheism because all the religions confuse his small brain.
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"God did it" is the lazy, slow, and stupid conclusion. If nobody told you about god when you were growing up, you wouldn't default to that position. You'd try to find real answers
 
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khalid_sl said:
Stop hating on Muslims bro.



I know it is desperately important to you that atheism be categorized as a religion, but it simply isn't.
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I don't hate Muslims. Their own book accidentally says Christianity is right because they can't write well to save their lives. Their book makes the Bible look like a science textbook.

I don't categorize atheism as a religion. I told you that earlier when you put it in a list of your explanations of all the religions that you are categorizing it like that. I told you how to not do that.

Relgiion and atheism ARE black and white, they are opposites. Agnosticism is the right middle choice. That isn't implying that atheism is a religion at all, in fact the opposite because it couldn't be so polar to religion if it was just another religion.
 
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Jive Turkey_sl said:
"God did it" is the lazy, slow, and stupid conclusion. If nobody told you about god when you were growing up, you wouldn't default to that position. You'd try to find real answers
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I know plenty of people that grew up without learning about God in secular households that decided there was more to life and started researching and came to the conclusion that God was real. Don't assume that everyone who is religions grew up that way. I happened to grow up that way, looked into it myself when I was older and just so happen to still believe, strictly by choice. You assume that anyone who ever was a Christian will be killed if they leave the club. It's not happening (that I know of
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I happened to grow up that way, looked into it myself when I was older and just so happen to still believe, strictly by choice.
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It has nothing to do with Jesus' gun in your ear should you not "believe?"

And yes I skipped your point about God telling us to not buy knock off Chinese DVDs or whatever the Bronze Age equivalent was.
 
Jive Turkey

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I know plenty of people that grew up without learning about God in secular households that decided there was more to life and started researching and came to the conclusion that God was real. Don't assume that everyone who is religions grew up that way. I happened to grow up that way, looked into it myself when I was older and just so happen to still believe, strictly by choice. You assume that anyone who ever was a Christian will be killed if they leave the club. It's not happening (that I know of
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I never mentioned apostasy. Not sure where that's coming from. So just a big fat coincidence that the religion you were brought up in made the most sense to you as an adult? hmmmm
 
Jive Turkey

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Ahh but it isn't because down that path lies rules and mocking and actual changes in your lifestyle.
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In my path also lies rules and morality, only mine aren't governed by a fear of being punished; they're governed by a want to be nice to people since this is the only shot we have
 
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Jive Turkey_sl said:
I never mentioned apostasy. Not sure where that's coming from. So just a big fat coincidence that the religion you were brought up in made the most sense to you as an adult? hmmmm
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A miracle, like his speaking English and not Mandarin. Nothing to do with how one is raised or the environment in which..etc...etc.
 
khalid

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Jais_sl said:
And yes I skipped your point about God telling us to not buy knock off Chinese DVDs or whatever the Bronze Age equivalent was.
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The almighty God, who when dictating his commands to his chosen people, somehow couldn't find time to lay down any scientific truths but could lay down a prohibition against, effectively, chinese dvd knockoffs.
 
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Jive Turkey_sl said:
In my path also lies rules and morality, only mine aren't governed by a fear of being punished; they're governed by a want to be nice to people since this is the only shot we have
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There are plenty of things that you could be doing better that you don't because you just don't think they are a big deal. They are still morally acceptable to a secular world but not to religion.

Some of these things strangely enough are the reason Mist hates all men I bet.

Things like banging multiple women instead of settling down with one the first time and not divorcing your wife. Things like that.
 
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khalid_sl said:
The almighty God, who when dictating his commands to his chosen people, somehow couldn't find time to lay down any scientific truths but could lay down a prohibition against, effectively, chinese dvd knockoffs.
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God stated that rule? Why don't you quote him saying that chief.
 
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a_skeleton_03 believes he is smarter than Bertand Russel, ladies and gentlemen.

Also, apparently all that jewish stuff in the Old Testament is obsolete junk, but when the Mormons bust out bible 3.0 they are not "true Christians" for some reason....

I agree with you about agnostics, but religion is not a sport and no one is keeping score for an afterlife. When you die from whatever cancer you have and I keel over from my heart deciding not to enable my eating and drinking habits anymore, we will both simply cease to be. The only difference is that I will have lived my life making sound rational moral choices based on reality, while you will have wasted a good chunk of your time on make believe writings defending the fucking child molesters that spew this horseshit. You believe what you do out of fear and what was pounded into you as a child, like everything else that motivates you in life. The sad thing is that deep down you know this, because the arguments you spin are all designed to convince no one but yourself.
 
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Phazael_sl said:
a_skeleton_03 believes he is smarter than Bertand Russel, ladies and gentlemen.

Also, apparently all that jewish stuff in the Old Testament is obsolete junk, but when the Mormons bust out bible 3.0 they are not "true Christians" for some reason....

I agree with you about agnostics, but religion is not a sport and no one is keeping score for an afterlife. When you die from whatever cancer you have and I keel over from my heart deciding not to enable my eating and drinking habits anymore, we will both simply cease to be. The only difference is that I will have lived my life making sound rational moral choices based on reality, while you will have wasted a good chunk of your time on make believe writings defending the fucking child molesters that spew this horseshit. You believe what you do out of fear and what was pounded into you as a child, like everything else that motivates you in life. The sad thing is that deep down you know this, because the arguments you spin are all designed to convince no one but yourself.
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Except I have absolute zero fear. Zero. Don't presume to know why I believe what I believe, you will be wrong every time. If it was based on fear I would reject it.
 
khalid

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Phazael_sl said:
a_skeleton_03 believes he is smarter than Bertand Russel, ladies and gentlemen.

Also, apparently all that jewish stuff in the Old Testament is obsolete junk, but when the Mormons bust out bible 3.0 they are not "true Christians" for some reason....
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Yep, one of the many contradictions which outlines the absurdity of his "true christians" belief.

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