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Jive Turkey

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Too often when I see someone bring up that correlation does not equal causation it looks to me though the person is warding themselves versus evil. Throwing a pinch of proverbial salt over their shoulder. Phew, safe!

Correlations are not without value, not even close. It's just that causation is a very, very high standard and sometimes even impossible to establish. It is true that you need to be careful with correlations as they invite spurious comparisons but they are absolutely useful things and statistically relevant.
This. I've seen it used several times in this thread like it's a magic discussion elixir.
 

Tanoomba

ジョーディーすれいやー
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This. I've seen it used several times in this thread like it's a magic discussion elixir.
If you guys think feminism is responsible for making people miserable, back it up and quit your bitching. I'm sick of people using correlation as some sort of magic discussion elixir. Did you know thatthisandthishappened over the same period? MIND = BLOWN

Of course correlation is a valuable observation tool. It is used to create hypotheses, which are then tested using the scientific method to see if they pan out. If you don't go through that all-important step of putting the hypothesis to the test, then your theory is only good for sharing with people who already agree with you and are more than happy to consider your theory feasible with no proof. Don't expect it to count for much in a debate scenario, though.

When did feminism "take root"? Are you talking about first wave, second wave, or third wave? What other social changes took place over that time? I'll bet you could find a shit ton of shifts, changes, technological developments, world-changing events and various miscellanea that occurred the same time feminism "took root". How are you measuring people's happiness? How far back can we measure general shifts in societal happiness? What reason do we have to believe that this decline in happiness (which itself is not even a given) is due to feminism? Jesus Christ, a lazy schmuck throws out a lazy correlation and I'm the bad guy for having reasonable doubt.
 

Jive Turkey

Karen
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You guys? Did I say that? I was simply pointing out how lazy it is of you to dismiss people's points with your go-to phrase du jour
 

Tanoomba

ジョーディーすれいやー
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You guys? Did I say that? I was simply pointing out how lazy it is of you to dismiss people's points with your go-to phrase du jour
Not nearly as lazy as throwing a haphazard correlation out and expecting it to have value JUST BECAUSE.

Edit: Also, it was a fucking comic strip. I didn't draw it, but I certainly saw how it was relevant to what was being said. Also, "phrase du jour"? This is the first time ever (as far as I remember) that I've pointed out that correlation doesn't equal causation. Sue me.
 

Soygen

The Dirty Dozen For the Price of One
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Before this thread goes any further, I need everyone to check in with their score:CheckMyPrivilege

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Agraza

Registered Hutt
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Describing myself I got to 135 (also shitlord), but then I designed a caricature of oppressed and got -2010 (extremely oppressed). How low can you go?
 

Lithose

Buzzfeed Editor
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Before this thread goes any further, I need everyone to check in with their score:CheckMyPrivilege
Got Shitlord as well. hah, then I answered terrible in all categories but being white, human, male and straight--and still got privileged, 75. I guess a fat, short, disabled minimum wage worker is very privileged as long as he's straight and doesn't believe he's a fucking owlkin.
 

Loser Araysar

Chief Russia Reporter. Stock Pals CEO. Head of AI.
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Maybe I checked the wrong box accidentally. I took the test on my phone
 

Lejina

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170 as well
Can I print my score and use it as a literal get out of jail free card? Maybe sell it for $50?