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iannis

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That's insane. Do none of those policemen have the balls to just state the obvious and slap the girls father around for wasting everyone's time?

I suppose they don't. Gotta make a 17 year old hard and take pictures of his dock for the lawyers. Just another day at the office.
 

Tanoomba

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See that actually is patriarchy, but where are the women defending the boy and saying that the girl bears responsibility for her part in the exchange? Patriarchy is all well and good when it favors women.
They're hiding in the same place the MRA guys hide out every time some drunk guy beats the shit out of his wife.

Alternatively, the same place Al Sharpton hides whenever a black guy robs a convenience store.
 

Himeo

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Woman jumps out of moving car, blames boyfriend.

The video:

" cell phone footage shows a visibly wasted Strother throwing herself out of Cortez's car as it's moving. She lands on the ground and proceeds to ask Cortez why he pushed her out. The judge cleared all charges shortly after police saw the cell phone video."

This isn't the first time she hurt herself and blamed it on him, either:

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/247790...t-dallas-judge

Learn the warning signs, avoid people like this. There is no sex on Earth worth taking that sort of risk. This man's career and freedom were only saved because he had cell phone video. Don't be this man. Don't let it come this far, you can only lose.
 

Azrayne

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They're hiding in the same place the MRA guys hide out every time some drunk guy beats the shit out of his wife.
You mean the place where they point out that domestic abuse isn't gendered and is almost always reciprocal?

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It's like we're Vulcans, except instead of meditating to suppress our violent emotions, we have to check our privilege by reading Jezebel and salon for 30 minutes every day to suppress our urge to bash and rape women (I've been watching a lot of Star Trek lately).
 

Tanoomba

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You mean the place where they point out that domestic abuse isn't gendered and is almost always reciprocal?
Nope, not that place. The place where anybody with an agenda goes when something occurs that doesn't fit their agenda. Is this surprising to anyone? Do we really need to say "Where are the women/feminists when (event that negatively effects a male) happens?"
It's a fucking stupid question and it means nothing.

Where are the Christians when a priest gets caught fucking little boys?
Where are the NRA people when an unarmed black man is gunned down?
Where were the Nintendo fanboys when the Virtual Boy bombed?

See? Fucking stupid. We know damn well where they are, it's the exact same place every single one of us goes when something that doesn't fit the agenda we want to promote happens. Let's not pretend this is specific to women or feminists because that's fucking stupid.
 

Azrayne

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So people should just be ok with shitty stuff if everyone else does it anyway? Pretty pathetic way to view the universe.
 

Tanoomba

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So people should just be ok with shitty stuff if everyone else does it anyway? Pretty pathetic way to view the universe.
Not at all, but to act like feminists are unique in their hypocrisy because they don't vocalize their distaste whenever a male suffers an injustice is, again, fucking stupid.

If I had just made the Al Sharpton comment and not the MRA comment, I would not have gotten a negative response because everyone here is cool with ragging on Al Sharpton. But because I made a comment about the anti-feminist crowd, people get defensive and feel they have to try to put me in my place. That is the same kind of hypocrisy. It happens on this board a hundred times a day. If we just want to suck each other's dicks by making fun of people we don't like, that's fine, just don't pretend to be above it all and the arbiter of all that is just and fair in the world.
 

Azrayne

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The whole thing is stupid. Whipped boyfriend in denial for months starts having panic attacks because his borderline personality disorder having (I know it when I see it), SJW girlfriend is whoring around (in a literal sense - she's having sex for compensation) and making up BS to try get success and attention, because that's what chicks with personality disorders do, """gaming journalism""" (deserves more than one pair of inverted commas, the whole concept has always been a huge joke) is still fucking retarded, except now they're selling out for the SJW's instead of the publishers, and the internet is surprised by this because..... I don't know. The boyfriend needs a shrink and a xanax script, the ex-girlfriend needs a long stay in a psych ward (and to stop dressing like she's 16, what self respecting 28 year old has pink hair and snake bite piercings - I mean we've already established that she has no self respect, but come on, at least Anita Sarkeesiasnasdnasdsah didn't dress like a teenage girl from 2007) and the internet needs to stop pretending that the words ''gaming'' and ''journalism'' belong in the same sentence.
 

Arbitrary

Tranny Chaser
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There is nothing inherently hypocritical about attacking X while defending Y. If you dislike Al Sharpton you must also dislike MRAs or you are a hypocrite? Can you show your work on that one? You can dislike some things and like other things. You don't have to dislike all things. You don't have to like all things.

Also, even if you are setting X and Y as such that youarebeing a hypocrite being one doesn't make valid criticisms less valid.
 

Azrayne

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Also, even if you are setting X and Y as such that you are being a hypocrite being one doesn't make valid criticisms less valid.
Except when those criticisms are addressed at someone with a vagina. Because... patriarchy?
 

Tanoomba

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There is nothing inherently hypocritical about attacking X while defending Y. If you dislike Al Sharpton you must also dislike MRAs or you are a hypocrite? Can you show your work on that one? You can dislike some things and like other things. You don't have to dislike all things. You don't have to like all things.
That's not what I said AT ALL. I said that every single one of us, very likely every person in the world, will remain silent when something occurs that doesn't support their personal crusade or agenda. My gripe is with attacking a specific group for doing this when every group, every person does this. It doesn't accomplish anything.

Also, even if you are setting X and Y as such that youarebeing a hypocrite being one doesn't make valid criticisms less valid.
Of course! But that goes both ways. A feminist's arguments aren't any less valid because she didn't speak up when a 17 year old boy had pictures of his dick taken by the police.
 

Azrayne

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That's not what I said AT ALL. I said that every single one of us, very likely every person in the world, will remain silent when something occurs that doesn't support their personal crusade or agenda. My gripe is with attacking a specific group for doing this when every group, every person does this. It doesn't accomplish anything.
That's bullshit. You're claiming that literally every person in the world is a hypocrite, which is nonsense. Yeah there are a lot of them, maybe even the majority, but there are good people who speak up against their own best interests or who stop to adjust their worldview and beliefs when they see something wrong happening.
 

Tanoomba

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That's bullshit. You're claiming that literally every person in the world is a hypocrite, which is nonsense. Yeah there are a lot of them, maybe even the majority, but there are good people who speak up against their own best interests or who stop to adjust their worldview and beliefs when they see something wrong happening.
Well, it depends if you consider that hypocrisy or not. I'm sure many feminists would be very against the treatment of that particular 17 year old boy. But just because they are feminists, it doesn't mean they are obligated to speak up about it lest they be labelled hypocrites (which just happened). If you're on a first date with a girl, are you going to tell her about the time you cheated on your last girlfriend? If not, does that make you a hypocrite?
 

Agraza

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They're less valid because the feminist didn't speak up when a girl sent pictures to her boyfriend, he reciprocated, and he's being punished. What the police want to photograph is irrelevant. It was a mutual exchange, and she's responsible for her part of it.

If feminists wanted equality they would stand behind the girl's capacity to make decisions for herself, but instead we're seeing the same old argument that women CAN NOT make decisions for themselves. That's where patriarchy is entering into this. The mother and the cops are going after the boy under the assumption that only he is capable of deciding whether it's appropriate to reveal his body to his partner.

The loudest voices of feminism want superiority, and a lot of women don't share that view. That's where the anti-feminist line is coming from amongst women. Control the message or lose the message. Look at what happened with the tea party and the republicans? The same extremist shit has risen to the top of the pile and won't shutup. Trying to hold onto the tarnished flag of feminism is a losing battle because the name itself has come to represent supremacy rather than equality.
 

Arbitrary

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Wait a minute, now I see why what my brain was getting stuck on. You keep referring to feminists remaining silent about the issues of males. They are not. They actively defend advantageous double standards, deride anyone who advocates for male issues, and even frames their entire movement with gendered terms that paint all women as good (feminism) and all men as bad (patriarchy). Patriarchy is literally the blaming of all men for all problems.

That's the whole reason you've got MRAs at all and the reason so many of them are the douche bag fedora atheist neckbeard types. Those fuckers love smug arguing.
 

Agraza

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It's not about the treatment of the boy you fucking moron. They're treating the girl as an idiot.
 

Azrayne

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Ugh, nope. Nope nope nope. Not getting dragged into another identity politics debates online, no matter how bored I am. Threads like this are bottomless pits of despair, hypocrisy and semantics.

I'm gonna watch more Star Trek. Stop and ask yourself how many other even slightly more useful or entertaining things you could have done with the time you spent arguing over this crap for 170 pages.
 

Tanoomba

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They're less valid because the feminist didn't speak up when a girl sent pictures to her boyfriend, he reciprocated, and he's being punished. What the police want to photograph is irrelevant. It was a mutual exchange, and she's responsible for her part of it.

If feminists wanted equality they would stand behind the girl's capacity to make decisions for herself, but instead we're seeing the same old argument that women CAN NOT make decisions for themselves. That's where patriarchy is entering into this. The mother and the cops are going after the boy under the assumption that only he is capable of deciding whether it's appropriate to reveal his body to his partner.

The loudest voices of feminism want superiority, and a lot of women don't share that view. That's where the anti-feminist line is coming from amongst women. Control the message or lose the message. Look at what happened with the tea party and the republicans? The same extremist shit has risen to the top of the pile and won't shutup. Trying to hold onto the tarnished flag of feminism is a losing battle because the name itself has come to represent supremacy rather than equality.
That doesn't change my point at all.
Was that story illustrative of sexism workingagainsta woman? No? Then most feminists aren't going to talk about it. Not because they think it's OK, but because why the fuck would they? Their cause is to fight against societal imbalances that work against women. Such imbalances do exist, and they have reason to fight for what they fight for.
You're saying "But what aboutthisstory, where sexism is working against the male? If they really want equality, why don't they speak up now?"
I'm saying that's a stupid question. Why don't they speak up every time a woman flashes her cleavage to get out of a speeding ticket? Why don't they speak up when Zoey Quinn fucks her way to the top and is protected by the media? Because they're fighting to help women who need help, not to highlight women who benefit from the flaws in the system. The fact that women can abuse the system and benefit from it doesn't mean that systematic societal imbalances that disenfranchise women on a global scale don't exist.

Now, if you confronted a feminist about this story and she said "No, that's different" or tried to defend the girl in question and deny her share of responsibility in what happened, go ahead and call that feminist a hypocrite. If she says "You're absolutely right, that girl should have to take responsibility for her role", then you're talking to someone who understands feminism. But to call a feminist a hypocrite just for not speaking out when one of these stories pops up is fucking stupid. We all do that. All the time.
 

Tanoomba

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Ugh, nope. Nope nope nope. Not getting dragged into another identity politics debates online, no matter how bored I am. Threads like this are bottomless pits of despair, hypocrisy and semantics.

I'm gonna watch more Star Trek. Stop and ask yourself how many other even slightly more useful or entertaining things you could have done with the time you spent arguing over this crap for 170 pages.