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Jais

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Why not? What do you think "taking control of your sexuality" means?
I haven't the slightest idea, I don't brood on this jazz all day. I wonder if we'll see a drop in women taking control of their sexuality now that the Fappening has come.
 

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Do you have a daughter? Suppose someone copied her private diary and gave it out to her entire school. Would you argue that was a matter of copyright and distribution, not a violation of her privacy?

Come on. We can enjoy JLaw's tits and still not lose all sense of objectivity.
There are two different things here at play, what that average person thinks of privacy, and what that law considers privacy. With the exception of email, everything you upload to a server outside of your control, it is not consider private since you are sharing it with the company that owns the service. Even the recent case about cell phone data and pics, dealt exclusively with pics stored on the device, not on the internet. If someone knows more about it please correct the privacy part.
 

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Ha ha ha what? the Victorian ideals of female sexual are under attack, you say?

Nobody is seriously criticizing these actresses for how they choose to exercise their libidos, dude (nobody who matters, anyway). The problem is that people's private information is being stolen by hackers. Did you not get the memo? These womenhave been"taking control of their sexuality". Unfortunately that "control" has been wrestled away from them by some scummy pieces of shit who bear the entirety of the blame in this scenario.

Hypothetical: Let's say the FBI decides to level possession of child pornography charges against anyone who even downloaded an image dump that included pics of the underage gymnast. Would the same people now claiming the actresses should have known better say the same thing about the men about to get a criminal record and become registered sex offenders? After all, if you knowingly download hundreds of pictures that were illegally stolen and never approved for distribution, you have to know there's a chance there might be some sketchy photos in there, right?
Apple shares a big part of the blame. They marketed their service as secure, when the actual flaw is very negligent. To put it in layman term, they made a lock, that if you try the Wong key too many times, by process of elimination you'll guess the right key, and then they allowed the lock to service thousands of requests per second.
It really was negligent what Apple did.
 

Cad

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There are two different things here at play, what that average person thinks of privacy, and what that law considers privacy. With the exception of email, everything you upload to a server outside of your control, it is not consider private since you are sharing it with the company that owns the service. Even the recent case about cell phone data and pics, dealt exclusively with pics stored on the device, not on the internet. If someone knows more about it please correct the privacy part.
Privacy law can be really murky because so much of it has to do with expectations of privacy, which can vary. There aren't a lot of bright lines in that sector of the law.
 

iannis

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I think the sooner that everyone realizes the internet is in fact a public space, regardless of what we would prefer the reality to be or what the sales pitch is, the better off we'll all be.

And it will be a public space until we develop that magical quantum cryptography we keep hearing about. I suspect by the time we do develop it the point will be moot, as it will be accompanied by a different innovation in computing altogether.
 

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I think the sooner that everyone realizes the internet is in fact a public space, regardless of what we would prefer the reality to be or what the sales pitch is, the better off we'll all be.

And it will be a public space until we develop that magical quantum cryptography we keep hearing about. I suspect by the time we do develop it the point will be moot, as it will be accompanied by a different innovation in computing altogether.
Actual crypto is rarely broken for the purpose of these "hacks" usually it is software error or human error, no amount of crypto would change that.
 

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I have read that it was from Apple subcontracting their servers to Amazon and Microsoft who are both still vulnerable to heart bleed. I would think that Apple could save some face on that.

Speaking of privacy and Apple if you recall they had an issue with the first iPad and ATT. All the owners names and information was mined from a simple exploit. IIRC they walked away from it with zero damage and ATT took the brunt of it.
 

iannis

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Honestly, I'm thinking more about shit that actually matters. Like banks and those recent russian hackers stealing a billion passwords to utterly random internet services. That rare case where it actually isn't so much human error as a limitation of the system.

Because yeah it's no excuse for shoddy work. On the one hand I hope apple has to pay a giant fucking fine. On the other hand, them paying a fine makes no difference, it's only for the feels.
 

iannis

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If you could actually guarantee privacy it would remove some of the major impediments to online health databases and significantly improve quality of service. Cost would still be a consideration, but honestly privacy is the bigger one.
 

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I'm amazed at the amount of koolaid that people drank with Apple, and how they seems immune to PR backlash. The celebrities and people who got hacked should stage a protest and switch to another service. Fuck i would if my pics were stolen like that. This wasn't a sophisticated hack, it was the simplest hack there is.
 

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That kind of thing does happen with D list celebs Drtyrm, but I don't think many of these were done on purpose. Those tend to be isolated events only related to a particular individual. These were clearly being traded illicitly for some time. A PR stunt doesn't incubate that long.
 

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I'm amazed at the amount of koolaid that people drank with Apple, and how they seems immune to PR backlash. The celebrities and people who got hacked should stage a protest and switch to another service. Fuck i would if my pics were stolen like that. This wasn't a sophisticated hack, it was the simplest hack there is.
Every brand of device/OS has suffered security mishaps. None is immune and knee-jerk switching wouldn't put you on a secure device.
 

Tanoomba

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I think the sooner that everyone realizes the internet is in fact a public space, regardless of what we would prefer the reality to be or what the sales pitch is, the better off we'll all be.
2 issues with this:

1) If we all assume that privacy simply can not exist when using the internet, then that's the end of eBay, Amazon, PayPal, Steam, online banking, bitcoin, etc. I don't see people being labelled as stupid for doing their shopping online or paying their bills online or having a PayPal account. Are we to assume that financial transactions are safe but photo storage is not? Why? Why can't we protect both?

2) Simply by posting here, we have marked our presence online. Between the things we've posted here and the things we post on Facebook (if applicable), we've offered more than enough information for someone to add a lot of misery to our lives if they so chose. Are we stupid for mentioning our home town by name, for talking about our jobs, for putting up a photo of our car or pet? Sure, celebrities are bigger targets (no one gives a shit about our pets), but does that imply that celebrities simply shouldn't have an online presence? The internet is a huge part of our everyday lives. Why should it be less so for people who need to worry about criminals violating their privacy and stealing personal info/photos?

Nothing gets fixed with us saying "celebrities should assume their personal photos will be stolen". Let's hope more energy is put into catching these criminals and punishing them to the full extent of the law than into blaming the people who have been violated. Let's also hope technology continues to advance (as it inevitably will) and offer greater protection for our personal information so we don'thaveto worry about piece of shit hacker scumbags.
 

fanaskin

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2 issues with this:

1) If we all assume that privacy simply can not exist when using the internet, then that's the end of eBay, Amazon, PayPal, Steam, online banking, bitcoin, etc. I don't see people being labelled as stupid for doing their shopping online or paying their bills online or having a PayPal account. Are we to assume that financial transactions are safe but photo storage is not? Why?
who assumes all financial transactions on the internet are safe at all? you've seriously never heard of identity theft or the rate people's cards get stolen on the internet all the time? the internet isn't really all the safe at all, people's money get's stolen everyday on the internet.