Mist
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It works just as well towards tyranny the other way, when people are presented with a false choices and then told they consented to them.
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Mist
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You're conflating the unrelated editorial content of that article with the college's reasoning behind their actions. We're talking about a university in Melbourne, Australia, a country very well Murdoched into conservatardedness.
Melbourne University porn ban angers Ormond College students
So, yeah, it's actually just puritanical Christian conservative bullshit behind this, not liberals crying rape culture.
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE TOTALLY FUCKING WRONG? Oh I guess it's like every other day ending in y.
PS: The ban is only on the wi-fi network apparently. It's probably just a bandwidth issue that some opportunist wanted to turn around and use as a soapbox.
khorum
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So they AREN'T inadvertently participating in an fresh ad-hoc experiment of whether access to porn has negative effect on "rape culture"?
I have ___ZERO___ problems conflating the religious feels-jihadists with the insane radfem SJW cunt-cult.
Why do you?
Something tells me you weren't a big fan of South Park's Bro-SJW cult depiction were you.
I have ___ZERO___ problems conflating the religious feels-jihadists with the insane radfem SJW cunt-cult.
Why do you?
Something tells me you weren't a big fan of South Park's Bro-SJW cult depiction were you.
Mist
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What you mean to say is that you have zero problems being intellectually dishonest. This wasn't some experiment that came out of the gender studies department. Both you and Lithose took the editorial comments in a Canadian blog about the actions of a Australian university at face value rather than looking into the actual story for the actual justifications for what actually happened.
fanaskin
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Jahiliyyah is literally the Muslim version of the divided self and false conciousness, that people who don't practice Islam and follow it's laws live in a state of "barbarous ignorance" and thus they don't know what's best for themselves. it's the basis for why they say they can kill anyone including other Muslims, because if they aren't actively fighting for or preserving sharia they don't know what's good for themselves and thus can be killed.
which is why it's so dangerous to have others who say they are "doing it in your best interest"
which is why it's so dangerous to have others who say they are "doing it in your best interest"
fanaskin
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it's the people who are broken, Marxism which is atheist has the same setup, they're the ones with the false consciousness stuff.
what the problem is is when people have an idea they think is so great they'll be willing to leverage more and more to make it happen, the greater the ideal the more they'll leverage to make it happen. religion is prone to it because idea's like eternal paradise are so strong in these mental equations it's easier to leverage things like genocide, but it's an aspect of humans in general from what I see.
what the problem is is when people have an idea they think is so great they'll be willing to leverage more and more to make it happen, the greater the ideal the more they'll leverage to make it happen. religion is prone to it because idea's like eternal paradise are so strong in these mental equations it's easier to leverage things like genocide, but it's an aspect of humans in general from what I see.
khorum
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Intellectually dishonest? You just tried to paint AUSTRALIA---the first jurisdiction in the british dominion to decriminalize homosexuality---as some racist murdoch-ized conservatard rapetopia. Then you tried to distinguish the feels-motivation of rabid SJW cunts like you as somehow distinct from the feels-motivations of other farcical people who refer to their own invented words and narratives to justify their bid at broader cultural influence.
Nope, I don't see any problem conflating a theological school from a gender studies department. Why do YOU think we should distinguish from an Islamic Madrasa teaching people imaginary terms for offenses against a goatherd in the sky to a sociology department that demands state intervention against a "rape culture" that is demonstrably nonexistent?
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The actual story you linked didn't provide any sane justifications either. What are you prattling on about?
khorum
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B-b-b-but they were JESUS PEOPLE. Don't you see? They use invented words like "Transubstantiation" and "disestablishmentarianism" to pretend like they're a legitimate academic pursuit in a campaign to seize more influence on the broader culture.
TOTALLY not like SJW Rape-Culture activists, you shitlord.
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One uses Jesus and one uses internalized misogyny but both of them want the same thing: thought control
khalid
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Yeah, almost all of us have equated the two groups together. Anita and jack Thompson are a great example of the extreme left and extreme right prattling on about the same shit.
Lithose
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The fuck are you talking about? Read my post again.
So a College has now blocked porn access on their campus networks.Butcheck outthe article; just pointing this out as to why people do not like "yes means yes" campaigns, because it won't stop there. What people have to understand is Rad fems really do believe women can not consent properly in modern society and that even if she says yes, it is problematic.
My post was about the article (I specifically said but to reference that instead of the college's actions), and then a rant about being able to critique feminist interpretations of things. I never talked about why this was implemented or anything of the sort. In my final paragraph I was talking about the huge amount of shit Feminists now treat as fact when justifying shitty decisions because those things weren't mocked and derided when they first came out.
Where, exactly, did I talk about the actual school being a product of anything? As for the school; frankly I don't really view conservative puritans and SocJus puritans as different--they dress themselves differently to fit into various social groups, but as far as I'm concerned they are authoritarians, plain and simple, whose unifying factor is thinking they know better than people, and should be in charge of thoughts. One relies on a bunch of bullshit written by men, a few thousand years ago, the other a bunch of bullshit written by women a few decades ago; both groups writing for the same reason, to interpret some abstract entity or ideal (God, Feminism--whatever) in a way that gives them power to shape the social group they are in.
khorum
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I dunno guys, that might be "Intellectually Dishonest".
One advocates violence, encourages censorship and believes in the government stepping in to punish its opponents........the other has awesome cathedrals.
Lithose
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He got his theology/Ethics degree at Oxford, after getting his law degree. His father was a famous environmental protection lawyer. His main driving force at the college has been diversity initiatives. You realize, you can be a Christian and a massive hippy/feminist/progressive, right Mist? He's not a Catholic Priest, he was a college Chaplain for theUniting Church of Australia. Guess what their primary goal is, Mist?Social Justice; they were founded as a very modern/progressive protestant church. They are one of the few Christian sects to have openly gay ministers, and support gay rights, not to mention a plethora of other progressive initiatives for the environment, minority advocacy ect.... (from their Wikipedia page.) They were founded in 1977, so they are a very modern sect.
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The UCA has a strongly felt and argued sense of social justice. It has taken stances on issues such as native title for Indigenous people, the environment, apartheid, status of refugees and provision of safe injection facilities for drug users. These stances have been expressed in practical involvement and in political comment and advocacy.
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They almost exclusively support liberal/left candidate in Australia and are known for extremely liberal support structure, it is denoted right on the page as well.
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The range of theology perspectives in the UCA is broad, reflecting its Methodist, Presbyterian and Congregational church origins and its commitment to ecumenism. The theology can be typified as mainline Protestantism with a commitment to social justice.
Theological perspectives found in the Uniting Church:
evangelical
fundamentalist
Mainline
left or progressive
liberal
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I don't know, Mist. Why don't you tell him?
Lithose
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Oh does the Catholic church support abortion, gay marriage ect?Here is their political web site,with conservative ideas like universal wages and advocacy for accepting open immigration and espousing multi-culturalism.
Not all Christians are on the "right"--there are some left sects, this is one of them. In addition, this dude has been in Academia, not at religious schools, all of his life--with a law degree and a pedigree from a family of environmental law that advocated for saving the whales and the rain forest. He literally said women should not be objectified by men, he didn't say anything about sex being wrong. Really, REALLY, what do you think he is? Does he sound like a fundamentalist right winger?
lol, your one straw to go on was the fact that he took theology as part of his ethics/philosophy courses as a Rhodes Scholar. That caused you to brand him as a fundi right winger. Because of course SJWs aren't psycho bat shit enough to believe in Social Justice and Jesus, right? Oh wait, no, because religion and feminism/social justice are both irrational authoritarian ideologies? The people within them can believe in both.
Even Islam can make you a Feminist.
(Psst; as I said, these people are all cut from the same cloth, so it's really moot which "side" they come from. Really its just window dressing, whatever is more fashionable for their social group.)