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Quaid any woman is vulnerable to us, anytime, physically. They cannot resist us in any way no matter their posture or clothing. Those are speed bumps not impediments. To act like a woman is more or less vulnerable to us based on posture is to deny reality, and just stretch to find some bullshit to deny a woman's sexuality. You're buying into some third wave nonsense there bro.
 

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I blame these movies that have female leads kicking like 10 mens asses in a row while their arms are smaller than a 2 inch pipe. TV is not reality which is why an pedestrian and average mma fighter could wreck the female champion.
 

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Again, sexual invitation is not sexual aggression. I'd find it very difficult to perceive a woman who was on all fours presenting her buttocks as anything but submissive/vulnerable.

Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not all that interested in this debate.
Whatever man. Seems like to me your edging on radfem territory where vaginal sex is inherently violent to a woman, thus making any invitation to sex as portraying vulnerability.
 

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Quaid any woman is vulnerable to us, anytime, physically. They cannot resist us in any way no matter their posture or clothing. Those are speed bumps not impediments. To act like a woman is more or less vulnerable to us based on posture is to deny reality, and just stretch to find some bullshit to deny a woman's sexuality. You're buying into some third wave nonsense there bro.
This. I'm 6' tall and about 245 lbs. There's not 1 woman in 10,000 who could physically resist me if I really tried. Clothing or not, attitude or not. The only thing that might stop me is she had a weapon of some kind, but then she better be damn good with that weapon or I'll take it from her and use it on her. If I really wanted to. And there's plenty of guys A LOT bigger and nastier than me. This vulnerability argument is silly.

Lithose is right about the historical aspects as well, lack of clothing back in the day was a sign of harlotry. Back then nudity/showing skin was actively suppressed so women would have LESS power over men, not more. Sexuality is women's main weapon in the battle of the sexes, covering it up lessens the power of that weapon, so ever since the sexual revolution we've been getting more and more skin/sexuality in every form of media. Mist is wrong as usual.
 

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Whatever man. Seems like to me your edging on radfem territory where vaginal sex is inherently violent to a woman, thus making any invitation to sex as portraying vulnerability.
Not at all really. I'm talking about primal behaviours that evolved long before society, or laws, or feminism, and that still dictate our sexual behaviours to this day. Men find easy sexual targets more appealing. It ain't rocket appliances.
 

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Men find easy sexual targets more appealing. It ain't rocket appliances.
Are you fucking high or just in full on Tanoma White Knight mode? Have you ever heard of the expression "playing hard to get" or read up on human (or animal) courtship rituals? You ALWAYS want the pussy you can't have. You ALWAYS pine over the one that got away. There is also a reason people get revved up by things that are taboo. Its basic human nature and extends beyond the realm of sexuality and relationships.

Your siding with a lesbian cat lady (metaphorical, her mom is the cat collection in her scenario) on the topic of female attractiveness and sexuality. Mist, the person who admits to hating sex, is the only person in agreement with you here (until Moonbat parachutes in here at some point), which should be an instant red flag to anyone trying to be objective.
 

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What am I white knighting? Women frequently being portrayed as sexually vulnerable is readily observable. You're probably just unaware of what you're seeing. What, in your estimation, is the purpose of men wearing pants while women wear skirts? Or high heels? Or hair style differences? I'm curious.

Yes, 'hard to get' is a courtship strategy - incidentally, men use this strategy to far greater effect than women do. But it relies more heavily on intellectual and emotional interaction, rather than raw sexual interaction which is what we are discussing.
 

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What am I white knighting? Women frequently being portrayed as sexually vulnerable is readily observable. You're probably just unaware of what you're seeing. What, in your estimation, is the purpose of men wearing pants while women wear skirts? Or high heels? Or hair style differences? I'm curious.

Yes, 'hard to get' is a courtship strategy - incidentally, men use this strategy to far greater effect than women do. But it relies more heavily on intellectual and emotional interaction, rather than raw sexual interaction which is what we are discussing.
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Ya know, just because most of what feminists talk about is bullshit, doesn't mean it all is. I'm not even saying women being portrayed as vulnerable is a bad thing. Neither is men taking pleasure in their conditioning to perpetuate that vulnerability. That shit is biology.

To deny it's happening all together though? That shit is fucking Looney tunes.
 

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Vulnerable to what, Quaid?
Being sexually coerced through physical force dude. There was a time in our evolutionary history where that was a good portion of sexual encounters. I'm arguing that many of our ideas of attraction are rooted in this period.
 

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Being sexually coerced through physical force dude. There was a time in our evolutionary history where that was a good portion of sexual encounters. I'm arguing that many of our ideas of attraction are rooted in this period.
Do you think any woman is safe from being sexually coerced by force regardless of her posture, clothing, or hairstyle?
 

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Do you think any woman is safe from being sexually coerced by force regardless of her posture, clothing, or hairstyle?
Absolutely not, but some things make it easier - like a lion picking out a sick gazelle. Physical orientation, nakedness, size, etc
 

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Absolutely not, but some things make it easier - like a lion picking out a sick gazelle. Physical orientation, nakedness, size, etc
It wouldn't make any difference and you know it.

Now that we've dispensed with this "vulnerable" idea. What is it that you hate about women's sexuality, Quaid? Does the idea that a woman has power over men by being sexually aggressive or available scare you?
 

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So e are back to the "if the woman looks like she wants it she is asking for it" trope then? Face it, you are one fedora tip away from being a 3rd wave white knight.
 

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Being sexually coerced through physical force dude. There was a time in our evolutionary history where that was a good portion of sexual encounters. I'm arguing that many of our ideas of attraction are rooted in this period.
Again, the size of your cock refutes this. You'd have absolutely no reason for a big dong if males had absolute sexual coercion. We're an intersexual species, females have a lot of say in who gets to mate (And size does apparently matter). You can't distill every encounter down to physical force--as said, were a social mammal, there are many other factors. We even have a cousin who has a female which is weaker but is sexually dominant thanks to socialization (Bonnobos).

In fact, it explains the bigger part you're having trouble with--why women tend to show off skin while males tend to show of strength. Because women are selectors in this species; men have an inherent interest to compete with each other, and prevent fellow males from using violence (IE males cancel themselves out in any society that's not polygamist), which leaves women with a big chunk of the power to make or reject choices (Or, in very violent societies, the women's fathers; but again, it's not just a binary, feminists who believe a father could make any choice he wanted discount the effect a daughter has on a father, a wife, how much power within a family unit females have. There is a reason why many Harems were places of extremely political power in some empires..)

Women tend to leverage social and sexual power a lot more, while men tend to leverage force. That's the difference in sexual displays, there is no need to label one as vulnerable. Women wouldNOTbe able to make overt sexual displays if they were truly vulnerable--it's why the MORE vulnerable a woman is, the more covered she generally is. You yourself linked the Burka, again, where is a garb like that worn? Usually in places where rape is a fairly legitimate mating strategy, women are vulnerable there so they show LESS skin and display their genitals LESS explicitly. Where women have MORE power, you generally find MORE skin, more overt sexual displays, because women rely on social power--that's not vulnerability, that's actually displaying their form of power.