Butthurt white guys, an Asian virgin and an angry lesbian walk into a bar...

Eomer_sl said:

Is Tanoomba Canadian? I dunno, maybe he's been following some of the shit that happened at some University campuses recently:Can she consent to sex after drinking? - The Globe and Mail

Apparently some taskforce did make the same claim as him:



So I dunno, maybe shit is different up here in Soviet Canuckistan. I would think a law professor would know whether consent can be given when someone is drunk, in a legal sense.

I apologize profusely for giving that weeping vagina any more ammunition, but I was curious. Apparently I have raped a whole mess of women, and almost all of them liked it.

Another link:How drunk is too drunk to consent? Legally, theres no clear answer | Windsor Star



So I guess it depends on the definition of drunk or intoxicated, and how much of a barbarian the judge overseeing the trial is!

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The belief that universities are hotbeds of sexual violence is fuelled by inflated statistics that are widely repeated as the gospel truth. For example, the widespread claim that one in five female students is sexually assaulted comes from the Campus Sexual Assault Study, a survey of more than 5,000 U.S. university women. Like many such studies, it stretches the definition of assault to the breaking point. The vast majority of the incidents it records involved alcohol. But the vast majority of the women who reported these incidents did not believe they had been raped ? even in cases that involved penetration. Two thirds of the women didn?t think these incidents were serious enough to report to the authorities. (Journalist Cathy Young has analyzed this study in detail and written at length about it.)

The consequences of this phony rape scare are troubling. On some U.S. campuses, due process has been thrown out the window. Men accused of sexual assault are deemed guilty until proven innocent, and some have been expelled. Even the Obama administration has weighed in, announcing a White House Task Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault. California is considering legislation that would codify the doctrine of ?affirmative consent? on campus. Universities everywhere are busy setting up more task forces, awareness sessions and sexual-violence response teams, while demonizing the allegedly toxic jock culture of male athletics.

The manufacture of ?rape culture? is a triumph of ideology over substance. It has inflated a serious but uncommon threat into a crime wave. It infantilizes women, strips them of their agency and treats them like Victorian damsels in distress. As for those armies of would-be rapists lurking in every shadow ? they?re your sons, your grandsons, your nephews and your brothers. I used to think the war on men was an exaggeration. I don?t think so any more.

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Benedet discovered many judges have determined that unless the victim was practically unconscious, she was still able to consent to sex. Her 2010 paper, The Sexual Assault of Intoxicated Women, cited cases in which judges or juries set the standard almost impossibly high.

Judges have ruled that a woman who was so drunk she was unable to speak, a woman who was stumbling and falling when the accused initiated sex in a public place and even a woman who was passed out in the road while two men fondled her breasts, were able to provide consent ? in the latter case, because the judge thought it was possible she could have consented to the act before she passed out.

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Gavinrad_sl said:

The last one sounds pretty fucked up. It's possible she could have consented before she passed out? There has to be more to the case than that.

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Tanoomba_sl said:

For one thing, you're pretending the male can't catch some disease he doesn't know about. That's an obligation for him from that point on, yes siree.
For another thing, yes, the other half of that sexual equation might actually get pregnant. That could become a pretty big obligation for her. That fact that this either doesn't count or doesn't matter to you says much about your ability to speak with any authority about our species. Yes, your decision to fuck a drunk girl (even if it meant breaking down her barriers) could lead to her being pregnant which, unlike a contract that can be voided, can't be undone with the swipe of a pen. Saying something is "casual" doesn't automatically make it so, especially when at least half of the people involved are drunk and wouldn't be doing this otherwise.

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Iannis_sl said:

I'm generally content to just break her hymen.

HEYOoo

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Iannis_sl said:

Not so secret, really. You just put a 50 in your palm.

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