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Xarpolis

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I thought about the Honda Odyssey, but in EVERY review between the two vehicles, the Pacifica comes out on top. I figured that was reason enough to purchase one myself. I drove an Accord for almost a decade. '97 Accord that I bought used. And I drove that until I got an '07 Audi A4 that I also got used. That didn't last nearly as long.





 
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BrutulTM

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My buddy's Honda accord blew it's engine at 110K. It's not like the Japanese never make a shitty car.
 
mkopec

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I have an 04' Ford Expedition that I still drive every day. It has about 80K miles on it. (was stay at home wifes car for years) And im in MI where they have salt mines specifically for clearing out snow in winter, lol.

this whole myth that somehow Jap cars are better these days are just 80s and 90s myths. They are every bit as good these days. Well except chryslers, lol.
 
Fifey

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BrutulTM said:
My buddy's Honda accord blew it's engine at 110K. It's not like the Japanese never make a shitty car.
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Just cause your buddy probably never did basic maintenance on his car, isnt a fault of Honda. At 100k most Honda/Nissan motors are nice and broken in, only really start dying closer to 200k.
 
mkopec

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Fifey said:
Just cause your buddy probably never did basic maintenance on his car, isnt a fault of Honda. At 100k most Honda/Nissan motors are nice and broken in, only really start dying closer to 200k.
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Thats pretty much any motor that is basic maintained these days. 200K is nothign these days if you change oil. Its the other shit around it that starts to nickle and dime you to death.
 
Fifey

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mkopec said:
Thats pretty much any motor that is basic maintained these days. 200K is nothign these days if you change oil. Its the other shit around it that starts to nickle and dime you to death.
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Granted this id all 2000 to 2010 ish cars and Dodge but cars would come in with under 15k and already be leaving oil spots.

I know the focus was a good reliable car but Ill just always be biased cause an american car might make it to 200k but its gonna let you know its unhappy about it more than a Japanese car.
 
BrutulTM

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Fifey said:
Just cause your buddy probably never did basic maintenance on his car, isnt a fault of Honda. At 100k most Honda/Nissan motors are nice and broken in, only really start dying closer to 200k.
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He did maintenance. Everybody makes a crappy car now and then.
 
Lanx

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Fifey said:
Granted this id all 2000 to 2010 ish cars and Dodge but cars would come in with under 15k and already be leaving oil spots.

I know the focus was a good reliable car but Ill just always be biased cause an american car might make it to 200k but its gonna let you know its unhappy about it more than a Japanese car.
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well, all focus' are now made in china, so you have to be extra crazy to buy a 2018+ focus
 
Frenzied Wombat

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Yeah sorry no. American Cars are still not up to the quality of Japanese brands. Not in fit/finish and not in reliability. They're not total wrecks like they were in the 80's/90's, but they still aren't up to par. I've rented countless American cars and they all feel junky with plasticky chrome and cheap trim. The exception being pickup trucks, which America does very well. Rented a Mustang GT about six months ago with 20K miles and the leather was already cracking, plastic trim pieces were loose, and the whole car creaked/rattled/squeaked. Basically a fast engine in a shitbox-- kinda reminded me of an older Corvette a buddy had. Like for the price point of a Mustang GT, why someone wouldn't get a Lexus 350 or Kia Stinger instead is beyond me.
 
Hekotat

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Frenzied Wombat said:
Yeah sorry no. American Cars are still not up to the quality of Japanese brands. Not in fit/finish and not in reliability. They're not total wrecks like they were in the 80's/90's, but they still aren't up to par. I've rented countless American cars and they all feel junky with plasticky chrome and cheap trim. The exception being pickup trucks, which America does very well. Rented a Mustang GT about six months ago with 20K miles and the leather was already cracking, plastic trim pieces were loose, and the whole car creaked/rattled/squeaked. Basically a fast engine in a shitbox-- kinda reminded me of an older Corvette a buddy had. Like for the price point of a Mustang GT, why someone wouldn't get a Lexus 350 or Kia Stinger instead is beyond me.
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I still love my Fiesta ST, I bought a second one after selling the first. That car is a joy to drive every single day, every single moment.
 
Frenzied Wombat

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Hekotat said:
I still love my Fiesta ST, I bought a second one after selling the first. That car is a joy to drive every single day, every single moment.
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Yeah, I'm not saying they are bad cars-- they've come a long way from the "3 years 'till perforated rust" of the 90's, I just don't see their value when put side by side with an equivalent Jap model, except for pickups. Like I'd prefer a Honda Civic SI over a Fiesta ST.

2019 Honda Civic Si vs. 2019 Ford Fiesta ST
 
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Hekotat

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Frenzied Wombat said:
Yeah, I'm not saying they are bad cars-- they've come a long way from the "3 years 'till perforated rust" of the 90's, I just don't see their value when put side by side with an equivalent Jap model, except for pickups. Like I'd prefer a Honda Civic SI over a Fiesta ST.

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If the Civic didn't look horrible I'd agree with you. Last few gens of the Civic have been absolutely horrible looking.
 
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Frenzied Wombat

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Hekotat said:
If the Civic didn't look horrible I'd agree with you. Last few gens of the Civic have been absolutely horrible looking.
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hah, I'll agree with you there, it's too Transformers for me. MIss the old 2004 Civic Si hatchback with the stick in the dash.
 
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Lanx

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yea, my neighbor just got, that honeycomb grill is ugly
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Axiel

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The massive fake vents to the side and the big bar going across the middle really spoil it.
 
Cad

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Frenzied Wombat said:
Yeah sorry no. American Cars are still not up to the quality of Japanese brands. Not in fit/finish and not in reliability. They're not total wrecks like they were in the 80's/90's, but they still aren't up to par. I've rented countless American cars and they all feel junky with plasticky chrome and cheap trim. The exception being pickup trucks, which America does very well. Rented a Mustang GT about six months ago with 20K miles and the leather was already cracking, plastic trim pieces were loose, and the whole car creaked/rattled/squeaked. Basically a fast engine in a shitbox-- kinda reminded me of an older Corvette a buddy had. Like for the price point of a Mustang GT, why someone wouldn't get a Lexus 350 or Kia Stinger instead is beyond me.
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A mustang GT is a completely different drive than like an IS350 or RC350 though... I'm not saying it's better because generally I agree with you but there's a good reason mustangs are made.
 
Frenzied Wombat

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A mustang GT is a completely different drive than like an IS350 or RC350 though... I'm not saying it's better because generally I agree with you but there's a good reason mustangs are made.
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What would you consider a Jap comparison? Something with around 350HP? F type Lexus? To me it just seemed the stang was a shit ride. Super cheap plastic interior and noisy ride. Only thing it had going for it was acceleration and exhaust note.
 
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