College Football 2015-16

Genjiro

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Terry Bowden imo was a very good coach, still doing it (at Akron no less....he wins everywhere he goes). He walked into a shitstorm at Auburn after the whole Pat Dye mess.

Kind of a weird coincidence: Terry started his coaching career at little old Salem College, a good but tiny program in West Va for D3 football (Bowdens grew up in Morgantown when Bobby coached WVU). The QB he coached there and taught the game to was Jimbo Fisher who grew up in Clarksburg WV (and won D3 player of the year award). Fisher then went on to be his QB coach at Salem...and ofc after a long career path ended up taking over for Bowden Sr at FSU.
 

Joeboo

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Pac12 vs SEC championship game attendance

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Photos: The difference between the Pac-12 and SEC Championship Games
 

Rais

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I can't wait to go to the taxslayer bowl. Two totally shitty offensives will make this game so enjoyable.
 

Intrinsic

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Just curious as to what Auburns expectations are as a program...would a bad year be anything short of winning the West, or will people be happy with a 8-4, 9-3 type season and finishing 2nd or 3rd in the West?

Or, the entire SEC could just hope that the rumors are true that Saban wants to try the NFL again after this season...
I'm really not sure I can answer this for you in any satisfactory way. I consider myself and the alums that I hang out with to be rational about 80% of the time and completely irrational the rest, because it is college football and you gotta have some fun.

A successful season, to me, is just one that shows progress. Whether that is going from a 4 win season to a 6 win, offense showing improvement, defensive doing better. There is no black and white definition, so really don't know how to answer it. There's no criteria about # of wins correlating to success for me. There's certainly failure though. Even the smallest improvements can be a success, but going backwards or remaining stagnant is a failure.

For the population in general I think it is more critical. Fans at large are irrational like 90% of the time and think their program should be in the National Championship game each year. I don't really (want) to believe Auburn fans are like this. We don't seem have the entitlement that comes with a program like Alabama. But that comes from always being the little brother. That isn't meant to be a specific dig at Alabama fans, just the way it is.

Let's be honest. If not for TWO miraculous game winning plays and a come-from-behind victory against Ole Miss, Malzahan is probably already fired.
Yeah without a doubt. I was probably the sole person in the world that wasn't excited about the Malzahn hire. Never been a fan of his offense and probably won't be until he learns to reel it in. I think he has great concepts and ideas but gets so far in his own head that he won't fucking stop for a second. Apparently he and Rhett Lashlee (who has been with Gus since Rhett was playing in High School) have some sort of Offensive Coordinator by committee going on and just coin flip the play depending on who 'feels' the best about it. Like wtf is that?

But it's not like Chizik established some sort of great tradition. He got real lucky one year with a player that he bought turning out to be a gamechanger. Honestly, Auburn hasn't had a good head coach since Tuberville. I always liked that guy.
He and Chizik both benefited from individual talents moreso than coaching skills. But c'mon, we aren't past this Cam Newton bullshit yet? Keep whining about some fairy tale bought this or that. That team was loaded with talent even outside of Cam Newton even though he was a huge talent. And turned out to be a pretty good NFL talent as he's matured and progressed in his career. Tuberville was an awesome fucking coach. And back with Al Borges, Muschamp, Chizik, et all on staff we had killer opportunities. The administration and AD completely fucked that situation up.

We're about to have our 5th DC in 6 years. I mean, what is progress? Who knows when you have a DC carousel and Head Coach constantly on the hot seat. Every program faces this today and it sucks.

I'm drunk or I'd type more and probably explain shit better. Auburn doesn't need to win National Championships every year to be a success or even the SEC. No one expects us to be Alabama or anyone else. We like being Auburn. That's why there are stories published about how great an experience it is for even visiting teams to come to the Plains. There's no pretension.

The only expectation every single Auburn fan has every year is that we beat Alabama. And even if you're a 0 - 10 coach winning that single game can pretty much secure your job the next year.
 

Borzak

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Guess the struggle is real. Miles announed no coaching changes and asked why the offense would need to change in his interview. So we'll see who comes out ahead, Miles or the AD. One of them is going to lose thier job. AD had already announced that him and Miles came to an understanding as far as coordinators go.

Someone on the LSU board posted Texas Tech's schedule and results. Do they play ANYONE who actually plays defense or is it all see who has the ball last to win? 8 of their games had at least one team scoring 50 points, 5 with someone scoring 60.

Sat, Sept 5 vs Sam Houston (9-3 FCS) W 59-45
Sat, Sept 12 vs UTEP (5-7) W 69-20
Sat, Sept 19 @ Arkansas (7-5) W 35-24
Sat, Sept 26 vs #3 TCU (10-2) L 55-52
Sat, Oct 3 vs #5 Baylor* (9-3) L 63-35
Sat, Oct 10 vs Iowa State (3-9) W 66-31
Sat, Oct 17 @ Kansas (0-12) W 30-20
Sat, Oct 24 @ #17 Oklahoma (11-1) L 63-27
Sat, Oct 31 vs #12 Oklahoma State (10-2) L 70-53
Sat, Nov 7 @ West Virginia (7-5) L 31-26
Sat, Nov 14 vs Kansas State (6-6) W 59-44
Thu, Nov 26 @ Texas (5-7) W 48-45
 

Foggy

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Guess the struggle is real. Miles announed no coaching changes and asked why the offense would need to change in his interview. So we'll see who comes out ahead, Miles or the AD. One of them is going to lose thier job. AD had already announced that him and Miles came to an understanding as far as coordinators go.

Someone on the LSU board posted Texas Tech's schedule and results. Do they play ANYONE who actually plays defense or is it all see who has the ball last to win? 8 of their games had at least one team scoring 50 points, 5 with someone scoring 60.

Sat, Sept 5 vs Sam Houston (9-3 FCS) W 59-45
Sat, Sept 12 vs UTEP (5-7) W 69-20
Sat, Sept 19 @ Arkansas (7-5) W 35-24
Sat, Sept 26 vs #3 TCU (10-2) L 55-52
Sat, Oct 3 vs #5 Baylor* (9-3) L 63-35
Sat, Oct 10 vs Iowa State (3-9) W 66-31
Sat, Oct 17 @ Kansas (0-12) W 30-20
Sat, Oct 24 @ #17 Oklahoma (11-1) L 63-27
Sat, Oct 31 vs #12 Oklahoma State (10-2) L 70-53
Sat, Nov 7 @ West Virginia (7-5) L 31-26
Sat, Nov 14 vs Kansas State (6-6) W 59-44
Thu, Nov 26 @ Texas (5-7) W 48-45
They will score on you but their defense is hilariously terrible.
 

radditsu

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I'm really not sure I can answer this for you in any satisfactory way. I consider myself and the alums that I hang out with to be rational about 80% of the time and completely irrational the rest, because it is college football and you gotta have some fun.

A successful season, to me, is just one that shows progress. Whether that is going from a 4 win season to a 6 win, offense showing improvement, defensive doing better. There is no black and white definition, so really don't know how to answer it. There's no criteria about # of wins correlating to success for me. There's certainly failure though. Even the smallest improvements can be a success, but going backwards or remaining stagnant is a failure.

For the population in general I think it is more critical. Fans at large are irrational like 90% of the time and think their program should be in the National Championship game each year. I don't really (want) to believe Auburn fans are like this. We don't seem have the entitlement that comes with a program like Alabama. But that comes from always being the little brother. That isn't meant to be a specific dig at Alabama fans, just the way it is.



Yeah without a doubt. I was probably the sole person in the world that wasn't excited about the Malzahn hire. Never been a fan of his offense and probably won't be until he learns to reel it in. I think he has great concepts and ideas but gets so far in his own head that he won't fucking stop for a second. Apparently he and Rhett Lashlee (who has been with Gus since Rhett was playing in High School) have some sort of Offensive Coordinator by committee going on and just coin flip the play depending on who 'feels' the best about it. Like wtf is that?



He and Chizik both benefited from individual talents moreso than coaching skills. But c'mon, we aren't past this Cam Newton bullshit yet? Keep whining about some fairy tale bought this or that. That team was loaded with talent even outside of Cam Newton even though he was a huge talent. And turned out to be a pretty good NFL talent as he's matured and progressed in his career. Tuberville was an awesome fucking coach. And back with Al Borges, Muschamp, Chizik, et all on staff we had killer opportunities. The administration and AD completely fucked that situation up.

We're about to have our 5th DC in 6 years. I mean, what is progress? Who knows when you have a DC carousel and Head Coach constantly on the hot seat. Every program faces this today and it sucks.

I'm drunk or I'd type more and probably explain shit better. Auburn doesn't need to win National Championships every year to be a success or even the SEC. No one expects us to be Alabama or anyone else. We like being Auburn. That's why there are stories published about how great an experience it is for even visiting teams to come to the Plains. There's no pretension.

The only expectation every single Auburn fan has every year is that we beat Alabama. And even if you're a 0 - 10 coach winning that single game can pretty much secure your job the next year.

For an Auburn Alum/fan I really do agree with you on a lot of things. In those years that we were okay, from like 93 to 2006, all we wanted to do was beat auburn. We could live with ourselves if we just beat Auburn. Our shitty coaches kept their jobs wayy too long because they beat Auburn a time or two.
 

Ritley

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Eight of the nine Big12 schools that played against Kansas had a better SOS than Missouri.
NCAAF Sagarin - NCAAF Football - USA TODAY

(You can guess which one didn't)
He turns everything into an attack on KU. Must be from lack of safe spaces at mizzou, hopefully the football team strikes again.

If the SEC cared about strength of schedule they would have never invited mizzou. Bad at football and basketball
 

Joeboo

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If the SEC cared about strength of schedule they would have never invited mizzou. Bad at football and basketball
lol. Mizzou, Alabama, Florida, Georgia. Only 4 SEC teams to go to back-to-back SEC championship games in the 2000s. I'll take that company. And only Alabama and Mizzou have done it inside the timeframe that we've been in the conference. Tell me again how much we suck. Mizzou has 8 SEC conference wins the past 2 years, kansas has 8 Big12 wins the past 8 years.

I'm smart enough not to talk smack in the basketball thread...we've sucked the last 2-3 years for sure, but our 4 years in the SEC has been a resounding success in football. We've been the most successful team in the East in the 4 years we've been in the conference, I can't ask for much more than that. I didn't ever expect to see 2 championship games in the first 4 years when we entered the league.
 

LiquidDeath

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All P5 jobs ranked by ease of recruiting #1 - #65. Interesting list, I've never seen a ranking put together like this before.

College football's easiest to toughest recruiting jobs, 1-65

1) Georgia
2) Ohio St
3) Texas
4) USC
5) LSU
6) Alabama
7) Florida
8) Florida St
9) Michigan
10) Oklahoma
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61) Purdue
62) Washington St
63) kansas
64) Wake Forest
65) Boston College
No way USC isn't on top of that list. Girls, weather, beaches. I don't buy Gerogia above them. I don't buy Texas lower than second either.
 

Joeboo

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I guess the general thought of the author is that Georgia has the entire state of Georgia mostly to themselves(which is like a top 10, maybe top5 state for overall talent each year) and then can easily pull kids out of Florida too. USC has southern Cal, but a lot of other people are hitting Southern Cal hard too(UCLA, the Arizona schools, etc)

That's the only reason Texas and all the Florida schools are as low as they are, SO much competition in their home states.
 

Fadaar

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Which is also the reason you see a school like UCF (my alma mater) go from good to shit in such a short time frame. They get lucky with a few recruits like Blake Bortles and then go right back to the shit heap because of the massive recruiting draw from the other schools in the state. Maybe with their new coach (former Oregon OC Scott Frost) they'll be able to pull in some worthwhile talent, but it'll take a few years.