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Grimmlokk

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The Ancient_sl said:
It's hard to say though. Frank Miller is very highly regarded and a lot of his art looks like scribble to me too.

It's actually not hard to say. Those linked pages look like shit. Miller at least had plenty of pages that didn't look like crap.
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Miller had some real style at least even if you found it sloppy. There was a visual flair to it.

Ultimate FF was always a pretty weak comic, but they had some flat out gorgeous art at times in the earlier issues. Not sure which artists were the great ones, I'll look a bit.

Greg Land had some good stuff.

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Jae Lee and Stuart Immonen were both decent as well, but yeah Greg Land is the one I was thinking of. Looking at other examples of his work I just really like the style I guess.
 
Caliane

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greg land. great. even "good"

What in the fucking fuck, did I just read?

Tracing porn? is that a style? there a name for that?


Just fucking Google greg land, and go have some fun.
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Grimmlokk

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Clearly I don't read enough to pick up on any of these repetitive traits=P Especially the smirk.

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Heh.

And fuck you, now if I read anything he drew in the future I won't be able to NOT notice this shit. Fucker!

To be fair a lot of the entries on that tumblr are insanely nitpicky and stupid. Spider-Woman's legs though is straight up Rob Liefeld.

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Lanx

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yea everyone of the women land draws is like the same, with lots of teeth or porn face. it easily became a problem i think it was Ultimate Power, where the FF fight the serpent girls or something, and i was confused as to which bitch was which bitch.
 
Lanx

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here i found this in spanish, he's tracing a pic of sandra bullock and using it as 3 different women
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(1) (death adder) (2) Black Mamba team Serpent Squad ( Ultimate Power # 01, Plate 9, Box 1 ). (3) Power Princess Zarda Sheldon the team Squadron Supreme ( Ultimate Power # 02, Plate 12 , Box 2 ).
 
Lanx

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he does it with men too, he takes that 70's kid and makes him ultimate reed richards
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eh i'll just post the spanish blog, it loads really slow tho
http://www.kicswila.com/
probably cuz of google translate

oh nsfw btw, seems a lot of other artists like to trace porn so those sources are up there too for comparison.

the ability for ppl to find the real life model trace is pretty crazy, heres one of land and wondergirl
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oh wow had to include this, kathy ireland so many memories
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Lanx

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i think the problem is, he doesn't even try to draw, just traces. ok, maybe you can trace a pose, that's cool, but he is such a tracer, he'll just copy and paste the damn coffee cup too while he's at it.

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then theres lazy, he'll just take the same images he drew , flip them and recycle, some he lifted from others (spiderman) and just outright tracing a girl (kate B)

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this is probably his most horrible one, where 1 girl = pixie/scarlet witch/spider woman

and invisible woman/emma frost/ fucking black storm???
 
TomServo

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fuck you caliane i went and looked at that shit. i wanted to forget about the liefeld esc bullshit in comics. now all we need is chuck dixons exploding communion waffers to round it out.
 
Xarpolis

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Clearly, Jim Lee is great as an artist. As is Greg Capullo from the older Spawn issues. And lastly, I loved Michael Turner. He drew Witchblade, Aspen, and a few others.

Examples of each.
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Xarpolis_sl said:
Clearly, Jim Lee is great as an artist. As is Greg Capullo from the older Spawn issues. And lastly, I loved Michael Turner. He drew Witchblade, Aspen, and a few others.
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I agree with all of those (and others of course). It is a shame that Turner died so young, as he was one of my favorites. I wonder why "decent" artists are so hard for them to find now, is there really that little money in it these days?
 
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I think it's because the decent artists demand a higher paycheck, and Marvel and other companies aren't willing to put out that money unless you have a proven name. It's a catch 22. You're worth more but have no name, and they won't pay you what you're worth because you have no name. It's silly, but that's business in general. The person always loses out and will either take a cut from what they're actually worth, or will move on and do something that will actually pay them as a result.

The cheaper product almost always wins. That's why McD's is so damn popular instead of ANY better hamburger.
 
Lanx

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lets focus on writers instead?

like jon hickman

he does east of west for image and it's awesome

god is dead, avatar a bit long in the tooth (he doesn't write for it anymore so i guess created it)

and then he does dog shit marvel titles

a lot of them

infinity
all new xmen
ff

i can't even name them all but hes doing lots of marvel and it all sucks. i'm blaming marvel and thinking he just needs a paycheck, hell if he has to take dog shit assignments like infinity to keep on creating east of west, sure.
 
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I really like that Ultimate Fantastic Four story with the Super Skrull. It's got one of my favorite endings of any comic ever.
 
Caliane

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lanx_sl said:
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i think the problem is, he doesn't even try to draw, just traces. ok, maybe you can trace a pose, that's cool, but he is such a tracer, he'll just copy and paste the damn coffee cup too while he's at it.


then theres lazy, he'll just take the same images he drew , flip them and recycle, some he lifted from others (spiderman) and just outright tracing a girl (kate B)



this is probably his most horrible one, where 1 girl = pixie/scarlet witch/spider woman

and invisible woman/emma frost/ fucking black storm???
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yeah. honestly "cheating" isn't really the problem.
Every artist SHOULD use references. and the path you take to get an end result isn't that big a deal. Tracing, if it does the job well, isn't that big of a deal even. Lightboxing is an age old technique.

The main problem is, the end result looks like shit. He's so fucking lazy about it. Perceptive doesn't work. Composition doesn't work. Completely inappropriate orgasm faces, blowjobs and handjobs in kids comics.
And copyright infringement. going to steal, it needs to be transformative.
 
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