Dark Souls 2

Vaclav

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Technically it's just +10% +10SL (so up to SL65 when you're SL50) and I don't think there's a bottom limit, which actually makes things harder on low-SL trolls. Covenants have an effect too, I forgot exactly how they work but some of them completely remove limitations. That doesn't really matter though if you're SL30 and someone shows up in your game with DLC spells like dark orb/dark bead/pursuers.

And of course your "legit" assumption is a mighty big one to begin with.
Yea, wasn't sure with the legit thing or not being that I've not played PC, I've heard it's an issue here - PS3 never had a problem with someone being ridiculously out of par with me leveling in a sane fashion not wasting points in stuff that was only good PVE. But key was that you can only have a slight risk higher - didn't mean to imply I was 100% on point, just knew the vague rules kept it in line.

Definitely lost sometimes, but it was never like "OMG I stood no chance" (especially once I started doing "Get Gravelord Sword ASAP" runs it's so ridiculous when you get invaded - Toxin is a game ender to a blocking invader and if they don't block it's even worse)
 

Vorph

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It's been trivial to hack on PS3 too for at least 9 months. People figured out how to re-sign protected savegames and from there it snowballed rapidly. They just download a savegame with 99 of every misc item, every weapon and armor maxed out, etc. All you have to do is edit the character's stats and name, sign it, and use it on your PS3. It's notable because the PS3 held out much longer than the PC and 360, but being able to brute-force attack savegame protection will mean that Dark Souls 2 on PS3 will be wide open for hacks just as quickly as the other platforms. At least the PS3 can permanently block players from ever connecting to you again; AFAIK the other platforms have no way to do that.

Hopefully From is thinking about how easy it has been to cheat in their games and they will put in a lot of sanity checking on their servers this time (for those not aware, Dark Souls 2 is going back to persistent online servers like Demon's Souls, instead of the P2P faggotry of Dark Souls). Not that I really care myself since I will play 100% offline, but I do enjoy the tears of people who need that shit to be able to do anything in the game at all.
 

Vaclav

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Ah - been about that long since I've played for any serious lengths besides coaching the wife through it which was all with her playing offline since she hates PVP fair or not.
 

Noodleface

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I play offline because I have no need to play with a bunch of dudes that have put 200+ hours into the game and want to swing their dicks around by killing me
 

Hatorade

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I play offline because I have no need to play with a bunch of dudes that have put 200+ hours into the game and want to swing their dicks around by killing me
After 200 hours they swing their dicks around TO kill you.

I have yet to find any real information on co-op I have seen videos of people playing together but is it at random or can you make public games?
 

Vaclav

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Its random, but I've seen some Youtubers consistently group although I'm not sure the method of controlling it. (Guessing blocked IPs or something though)
 

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I have not played co-op with a friend, but considering the restrictions (boss must not be dead, level bracket, living host) it should be pretty easy to put a mark down out of the way and just wait until it pops in your buddy's world. At any given time, how many people have all the criteria to allow for a summon? Not that many I would assume.
 

Hatorade

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I have not played co-op with a friend, but considering the restrictions (boss must not be dead, level bracket, living host) it should be pretty easy to put a mark down out of the way and just wait until it pops in your buddy's world. At any given time, how many people have all the criteria to allow for a summon? Not that many I would assume.
First week will likely not work at all, will wait for the PC version that uses some kind of hamachi mod.
 

Utnayan

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Ok... so I made it passed ringing the second bell. I am going with my own play style as recommended this time. Sword and board
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I need to find some decent armor. I have a drake sword off the tail of the dragon by that bridge... the thing rocks, and a gargoyle helmet, but the rest of my armor as I head into Sen's Fortress (Jesus that place is nuts) is what I had originally. I have the elite knight set but that is making me move to slow. And I still don't have the grass crest shield. I need to find that. (Using a Knight's shield now)

I was also invaded once. And I kicked their ass. So that was fun.
 

Noodleface

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Wouldn't worry about armor too much except for stone armor when you need to tank. Most speedrunners play naked and throw on stone armor for a few fights.
 

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I just killed seath over 15 minutes with a bow. That fight is beyond retarded. He sprays those curse crystals in 360 degrees around him then immediately has his tail seizure and you die. I watched several YouTube videos of that shit and he didn't do that to them, plus they all killed him in like 10 2handed hits. Close range didn't work, spells didn't work, including the crystal spells that are supposed to be so godly. Most fights I figure out after a while what I'm doing wrong. Usually I'm stubbornly standing back and trying to cast when I should be up close. But this time I tried everything. There is no hole in his game. Get behind, he sprays you anyway. Then immediately seizures and finishes you off

So I said fuck it and killed him with a longbow.

The game is really fun and satisfying at times, but some mechanics are just beyond retarded. New Londo Ruins? Jesus tittyfucking Christ. Ghosts coming through walls that can hit you before you see them, then being unable to hit them with a swing because they're a couple feet off the ground. My god that place was stupid. The game isn't even enjoyable at this point. Deaths that are unavoidable until you memorize shit (spawn locations in new londo, movement patterns, etc) is a really, really dumb way to make things "difficult"

At this point I'm almost done and not even having fun. I just want to beat it because I've come this far
 

Kreugen

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I liked the spear build the first time through. I could block, I could roll around at full speed, I could bomb the shit out of things with magic, I had good reach, etc. The only boss that gave me hell was the duo. It took a lot of patience to get an opening, and I seem to remember a lot of my damage relied on a slow to cast spell that was hard to get off because of some charge move they had. Anyway, I felt like a goddamn hero when I finally beat those fuckers. I kept going with NG runs and dumped into str and transitioned to a greatsword/heavy armor build and enjoyed it more because I could just face tank while hitting for nuclear bombs. What I haven't done though is started from scratch that way, hmm. Would I need to level up my pyro book and unlock more spell slots or does that build just hack away? Maybe after I finish Arkham Origins...
 

Kreugen

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I just killed seath over 15 minutes with a bow. That fight is beyond retarded. He sprays those curse crystals in 360 degrees around him then immediately has his tail seizure and you die. I watched several YouTube videos of that shit and he didn't do that to them, plus they all killed him in like 10 2handed hits. Close range didn't work, spells didn't work, including the crystal spells that are supposed to be so godly. Most fights I figure out after a while what I'm doing wrong. Usually I'm stubbornly standing back and trying to cast when I should be up close. But this time I tried everything. There is no hole in his game. Get behind, he sprays you anyway. Then immediately seizures and finishes you off

So I said fuck it and killed him with a longbow.

The game is really fun and satisfying at times, but some mechanics are just beyond retarded. New Londo Ruins? Jesus tittyfucking Christ. Ghosts coming through walls that can hit you before you see them, then being unable to hit them with a swing because they're a couple feet off the ground. My god that place was stupid. The game isn't even enjoyable at this point. Deaths that are unavoidable until you memorize shit (spawn locations in new londo, movement patterns, etc) is a really, really dumb way to make things "difficult"

At this point I'm almost done and not even having fun. I just want to beat it because I've come this far
I don't remember the boss you are talking about, but what I did in the ghost place was basically run through until I was in a good place to fight, then turn around and kill off the train. And then you lower the water and have those holyshit knights to deal with, lol. Good thing those fuckers don't respawn.
 

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That was another one of those bosses I never felt comfortable with when I beat him. I'm sure there's videos of people dancing with him but I feel like I just fought him enough until I got lucky, rather than totally figuring him out and being comfortable with killing him.
 

Kreugen

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Fuck why'd I open this thread now I want to play DS again. Although I changed up builds in NG+ I only ever played from scratch once.

Edit: Oh yeah, blind dragon, fuck that guy. I think he was one of the bosses where using a spear caused issues. From then on I had some int-usable sword handy.
 

Yukiri_sl

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I need to find some decent armor.
If memory serves, there is an awesome set of light weight armor (Gold Hemmed) that you can ninja from just inside Izalith off the corpse of a dead witch on an altar, just past the Ceaseless Discharge (you dont have to kill it to get to the armor, but it's an easy mini-boss). The armor cant be reinforced but it will take you a ways while you hunt for better. It's a quick run from Queelag's lair.
 

Vorph

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Seath is practically immune to magic, andisimmune to bleed/poison/curse. Quelaag's sword/chaos blade, lightning weapons, and/or pyromancy are what you need to bring there. As well as curse resist of your own, obviously. Dingy/antiquated are good choices.

Start the fight by smashing his heart, which stuns him for several seconds and gives you time run behind him. Stay in between two of his three tails the whole fight; the only thing you should ever have to dodge is the tail smash thing he does and the big crystal explosion, and both of those are telegraphed with plenty of time to avoid. Two-hand your weapon with the grass shield on your back, chop his tail off with R2 strikes unless your preferred weapon has a really shitty 2H R2 and throw some Great Combustions his way if you use pyro (also very effective for tail removal, just remember that only the tip counts for tail damage). Done right, it's up there with Gaping Dragon as one of the easiest boss fights.


As for "decent armor" the most important thing is the weight. Other than the handful of fights where poise is useful, the basic rule is, "If it takes you over 25% burden, get rid of it." If you start as a pyromancer and don't want to bother re-optimizing your gear every hour or two, the tattered set will last you the entire game easily. The only time you really need to swap it out is for areas that require curse resist.
 

Utnayan

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Seath is practically immune to magic, andisimmune to bleed/poison/curse. Quelaag's sword/chaos blade, lightning weapons, and/or pyromancy are what you need to bring there. As well as curse resist of your own, obviously. Dingy/antiquated are good choices.

Start the fight by smashing his heart, which stuns him for several seconds and gives you time run behind him. Stay in between two of his three tails the whole fight; the only thing you should ever have to dodge is the tail smash thing he does and the big crystal explosion, and both of those are telegraphed with plenty of time to avoid. Two-hand your weapon with the grass shield on your back, chop his tail off with R2 strikes unless your preferred weapon has a really shitty 2H R2 and throw some Great Combustions his way if you use pyro (also very effective for tail removal, just remember that only the tip counts for tail damage). Done right, it's up there with Gaping Dragon as one of the easiest boss fights.


As for "decent armor" the most important thing is the weight. Other than the handful of fights where poise is useful, the basic rule is, "If it takes you over 25% burden, get rid of it." If you start as a pyromancer and don't want to bother re-optimizing your gear every hour or two, the tattered set will last you the entire game easily. The only time you really need to swap it out is for areas that require curse resist.
Tattered set even for a warrior?