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wouldn"t this kind of behavior be ultimately immoral and un-ethical?
 
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fanaskin said:
wouldn"t this kind of behavior be ultimately immoral and un-ethical?
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You"re right. Been thinking about building a nice account farm for each of the top social networks and do it at a larger scale.

What should I use bros? VM?

Jalynfane said:
Yeah, quick better stop doing it.
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You down to join in on the fun?
 
Shonuff

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Do fake followers have any "real" value?

I know marketing types and advertisers like them. But they are idiots.
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I just don"t understand what value this stuff has to a business. I"m big on Google, but don"t see what FB would offer.
 
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"Social Media" just became something to sell to businesses. We used to get pushed by a ton of web people/seo "experts" to put money into social media. They would try to get us to spend money on PPC campaigns for facebook and other things.

I think "Social Media" is only good for telling your friends that you just got dumped or your baby just learned to walk. I don"t see any value in it for business other than maybe the branding that comes with putting your name everywhere.
 
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I think it purely depends on what type of business you have. For landscaping, not that much is changing in that realm that customers need to see. However if you were a concert venue. You"d be updating the facebook probably 3 times a week with the shows coming up.

Also in my business, pet stores. Customers want to know whats new in stock for animals etc. If they"ve been waiting for that rare fish, they want to know when it comes in.

A business I have on my facebook page is a local Gelato place. Why? because I want to know what home made flavors they have in the case. They update it when they put new flavors in. It"s not obtrusive for my facebook and it does make me go in more than If I hadn"t friended them.

As for having Walmart, Best buy Etc friended... Nope, nothing I need to know from those businesses. If your customer base can use weekly information, then it"s worth putting some time into facebook. If you"re a business that is relatively stagnant, its not. Another example is a barber or salon. Specials aren"t worth friending on facebook for. And when someone needs a haircut they"re already going to come back to you if they needed it.

Other good canidates for facebook are season business. Say you run a little league baseball team. Having the parents friend the team on facebook means it"s easy to remind them before next season to sign up etc.
 
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right but if all those people following it are tyen bot likes how is it of use to anyone, he"s just polluting the concept for personal gain.
 
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fanaskin said:
right but if all those people following it are tyen bot likes how is it of use to anyone, he"s just polluting the concept for personal gain.
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Polluting?

Facebook is trying to tell people that Click-Through-Ratio means absolutely nothing because they have ZERO viable metrics.

Facebook is polluted because they want to deviate away from proper analytical data in order to schill their own "metrics" and act like it means something.


Likes, and your "Reach" on Facebook does not mean more than people clicking into your website. It"s a joke and you should know it"s a joke.



Facebook does not publish its average click-through rate (CTR), but independent analysis from Webtrends on more than 11,000 Facebook campaigns showed that the average CTR for Facebook ads in 2010 was 0.051 percent, which is about half the industry standard CTR of 0.1 percent. The rate, according to the Webtrends report, dropped from 0.063 percent in 2009, which points to a downward trend.
"Even though [Facebook] talked about . the fact that it has about 40 percent of all the online banner ads, that the cost per advertising paid to the company has gone up by 18 percent," said Adriaens, "it didn't take it all the way through to the next step and that is the click-through rate."

Read more atWhat Facebook isn't telling you about its risky ad business | VentureBeat
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So I"m starting to sell followers, not even close to finishing the site though but you get where I"m goin.

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Just have some shit left to do before I start pushing the site huge.

Will post tons of graphs on the growth.
 
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I got socialpdx.com completely finished. Check it out and lulz.

Giving local pals 50% referral rates if they get someone to purchase a package.
 
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Tyen said:
I got socialpdx.com completely finished. Check it out and lulz.

Giving local pals 50% referral rates if they get someone to purchase a package.
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So, does that mean I get 1,000 likes for $50? What"s the process? Are these fake accounts w/ no activity on them offering likes or what?

The item with the most assumed ROI would be the youtubes views. How do the subscribers work? Fake accounts or accounts with activity?
 
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Tmac47 said:
So, does that mean I get 1,000 likes for $50? What"s the process? Are these fake accounts w/ no activity on them offering likes or what?

The item with the most assumed ROI would be the youtubes views. How do the subscribers work? Fake accounts or accounts with activity?
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All accounts have pics, bio, and content posting.

But, to re-summarize, social media metrics are a joke and if you think it will translate into any type of sales, than Facebook and Zynga wouldn"t be taking a nose-dive in the stock market.

Here is my 140k Twitter followers,https://twitter.com/socialpdx


So, does that mean I get 1,000 likes for $50?
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Sure, register and I"ll change your usergroup to where the prices are 50% off.
 
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So I"m hitting up Craigslist super hard with my automated system and got a lulzworthy email.
 
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