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Is there any good reason to go with i7 vs. i5 for gaming? Will I notice the difference much? Maybe when gaming and multitasking?
I'm looking at this combo package on Newegg, which pretty much seems to have everything I want in a decent game system (Haswell i5, SSD, 760 GTX, 8 GB ram) for $930 after rebates.
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Getting the below processor / mobo / RAM / case / PSU package for $580 after rebates and then throwing on a 240GB SSD (~$160) and a 760 GTX ($~260) for a total of $1020. Case is pretty meh, but for an extra $90 would be getting i7 over i5 and doubling the SSD space (don't really care about having all the extra space of a traditional HDD right now).
Intel Core i7-4770K Processor/Asus Z87-A Motherboard/8GB DDR3 1600 Patriot Viper Xtreme Memory/Ultra 550W PSU/Cougar Solution Steel Gamer Case Barebones at TigerDirect.com
I'm looking at this combo package on Newegg, which pretty much seems to have everything I want in a decent game system (Haswell i5, SSD, 760 GTX, 8 GB ram) for $930 after rebates.
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!
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Getting the below processor / mobo / RAM / case / PSU package for $580 after rebates and then throwing on a 240GB SSD (~$160) and a 760 GTX ($~260) for a total of $1020. Case is pretty meh, but for an extra $90 would be getting i7 over i5 and doubling the SSD space (don't really care about having all the extra space of a traditional HDD right now).
Intel Core i7-4770K Processor/Asus Z87-A Motherboard/8GB DDR3 1600 Patriot Viper Xtreme Memory/Ultra 550W PSU/Cougar Solution Steel Gamer Case Barebones at TigerDirect.com
Jovec
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i7: It's not going to make the PC unusable, but the RAM is a single stick and 11-11-11-28 timings at 1600. Intel CPUs are hurt less than AMD with slow timings and single-channel vs dual-channel isn't as bad as the 'net makes it out, but together these things will have small performance hit (2-5%, depending on app). But[email protected]/* <
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i7: Case front-panel USB3 looks an extension rather than internal header, so you'd have that cable coming out of the case and plugging into the back of the mobo. Many cases did less prior to the internal header being standardized. Not a big deal.
Might be better off not going a single big combo buy and instead look for little 2-item deals on better components. Then again I'm not the best judge of these things as I tend to overbuy and am something of a component snob.
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PCPartPicker part list:AMD FX-6300, Asus GeForce GTX 650, Corsair 200R - System Build - PCPartPicker
Price breakdown by merchant:AMD FX-6300, Asus GeForce GTX 650, Corsair 200R - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks:AMD FX-6300, Asus GeForce GTX 650, Corsair 200R - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($113.48 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.61 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 650 2GB Video Card ($132.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DS 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Kingwin CF-012LB 40.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.29 @ B&H)
Total: $1007.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Okie, tell me which ones to change. And I looked at that Newegg SuperCombo; having no idea on what's good or bad I'm not sure. And it doesn't look like it had an OS? Anyway, the above list was compiled with me mainly just picking which pieces had decent ratings/price ratio.
Price breakdown by merchant:AMD FX-6300, Asus GeForce GTX 650, Corsair 200R - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker
Benchmarks:AMD FX-6300, Asus GeForce GTX 650, Corsair 200R - System Build - Benchmarks - PCPartPicker
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($113.48 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.61 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 650 2GB Video Card ($132.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DS 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Kingwin CF-012LB 40.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.29 @ B&H)
Total: $1007.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-03 19:03 EST-0500)
Okie, tell me which ones to change. And I looked at that Newegg SuperCombo; having no idea on what's good or bad I'm not sure. And it doesn't look like it had an OS? Anyway, the above list was compiled with me mainly just picking which pieces had decent ratings/price ratio.
Jovec
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Intended usage?
Some general thoughts: Drop the dedicated sound card (-$45 and can always add later if you really need it). Do you really need a Blu-ray player? If not, bump down to a DVD burner (-$40) or skip the optical altogether (-$65)*. You could drop down to 8GB RAM (-$60). This money could go towards a SSD drive and/or GPU upgrade.
*If you have access to another computer with an optical drive you can make a USB install disk from that Win8.1 DVD.
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Stay away from AMD procs, they are bad for games. Intell i5 all the way. A bit more expensive but you wont be gimping yourself. If you look at the below benchmarks, even the i3 dual cores beat out AMDs. You don't need 16 gigs ram, 8 gigs is plenty. 430w ps is a bit slim, Id go for at least 500w+ and yeah, you don't need sound card, most mo-bos have girthy 5.1 sound already. Blue ray? You cant even play most of them so its a waste.
Back to the drawing board bro.
Check out that package deal above some dude posted from newegg. Its got all you need. At least it will show you an i5 system parts list.
If you have a microcenter in driving distance you can get considerable discount on mo-bo and proc combo.
Back to the drawing board bro.
Check out that package deal above some dude posted from newegg. Its got all you need. At least it will show you an i5 system parts list.
If you have a microcenter in driving distance you can get considerable discount on mo-bo and proc combo.
Gravy
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Thanks a ton for the feedback guys. I'm still behind the curve, but I'm learning.
Not sure what a microcenter is exactly. I've been studying that newegg pretty hard, but when I add a monitor and OS, I'm about, well, about that much over what I wanted to spend. Boss is not happy, but I'm patient.
Not sure what a microcenter is exactly. I've been studying that newegg pretty hard, but when I add a monitor and OS, I'm about, well, about that much over what I wanted to spend. Boss is not happy, but I'm patient.
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YEah it sucks that you have to buy the monitor and os and stuff, its a bigger initial investment. But think about it this way, if you invest now, you will have a good gaming rig for the next 4-5 yrs if you just change out the video card later on.
For the video card get the new Nvidia 750, its cheap and good.
For the video card get the new Nvidia 750, its cheap and good.
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Micro Center is an actual, physical store. They aren't everywhere but you can usually save a lot of money by shopping there instead of other places. They also don't ship so living close to one is important otherwise don't even worry about it.
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Yeah namely this....
Intel Core i5 4670K 3.4GHz Socket LGA 1150 Boxed Processor 521575 - Micro Center
$70 cheaper than anywhere else.
Also its just good to go there and see what they have specials on. Sometimes they dont even advertise the stuff they have on sale inhouse. They also do motherboard and processor bundles. Which will further cut down the price even more.
When I was there shopping last time, I picked up a nice cooler master HAF case for $50 and some 120mm fans for like $3 ea. Also they had a 120gb SSD for $69.
They also have specials on flat screen monitors all the time. I picked up a Dell 24 in LED 1080P for $139.
Intel Core i5 4670K 3.4GHz Socket LGA 1150 Boxed Processor 521575 - Micro Center
$70 cheaper than anywhere else.
Also its just good to go there and see what they have specials on. Sometimes they dont even advertise the stuff they have on sale inhouse. They also do motherboard and processor bundles. Which will further cut down the price even more.
When I was there shopping last time, I picked up a nice cooler master HAF case for $50 and some 120mm fans for like $3 ea. Also they had a 120gb SSD for $69.
They also have specials on flat screen monitors all the time. I picked up a Dell 24 in LED 1080P for $139.
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750ti probably.
Also pretty funny that I posted about having a dedicated sound card that I of course had to remove yesterday due to my new SLi setup. Go figure
Gonna have to do a mobo/cpu upgrade soon so I'll just keep it and reuse it then.
Yes yes, I know dusty. I dusted it out when I added the card. Also I live in the desert, so sue me.
Also pretty funny that I posted about having a dedicated sound card that I of course had to remove yesterday due to my new SLi setup. Go figure
Yes yes, I know dusty. I dusted it out when I added the card. Also I live in the desert, so sue me.