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Joeboo

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I have that exact monitor stand, and its amazing having your monitors up off your desk. I have a 27" Qnix 1440p LED on one side, and a 28" Hanns-G 1200p LCD on the other side. The LCD is a good 5-6lbs over the claimed weight limit for the clamp, and it still has been fine for the 8-9 months that I've had it now. It's as solid as can be and still holds it well.
 

Quaid

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And now that I'm doing more research, looks like even the gtx 750 ti is out
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Looks like I'm going with a gt 640, fuckin lame but I don't have a gtx 760 in my budget right now. Thanks anyway guys.
How about the radeon 270? There's no need for you to spend as much as you are on the CPU & mobo you have selected. Downgrade those before you sacrifice gpu power.
 

Lenas

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How about the radeon 270? There's no need for you to spend as much as you are on the CPU & mobo you have selected. Downgrade those before you sacrifice gpu power.
Well I am wanting this to be okay a few years down the line and I figure easier to upgrade a gpu than both mobo/cpu, so I'm getting better parts than I probably need in that respect.

Based on the advice here I am going to try the r9 270x 2gb and see how that works out. Hopefully I can get OSX working with it, there are a lot of people with positive reports.
 

Crone

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Wonder what the wife would say if she came home to a completely redone office with new TV and all for me. hahaha. Oh I'd love to see her face! I'd make sure I was laying on the new couch, playing on the new TV, when she walked in!
 

Chanur

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Does anyone have a link to a good gaming build for 1500 or less? Its going to be at 1080.
 

jeydax

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What? He asked for a good gaming build at 1080p and a budget of $1500. Show me a better build than that.

Edit: Oh, I suppose if he's want to be a pussy and save a couple bucks by going with an AMD card, yeah. Go nuts and get an R9 290 or R9 290X... but the build I had is still better at $1500. And if he ever jumps up to 2160p he'll be fucked by a 20%+ slower card. Yay!
 

Joeboo

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I think the video card comment was more along the lines of, why spend that much for 1080p gaming at this point? If he builds a whole new computer with 1080p gaming in mind, he's not going to be going to 2160p or 4K gaming anytime soon(not in the next year or two). For Nvidia, I'd spend $300 on a 770 and call it good for 1080p gaming for the next 18 months. Sure, you could spend $750 on a 780Ti and it might last you another 6-12 months longer than the 770, but I think your money would be MUCH better spent spending $300 on a 770 now, and then another ~$300 on whatever the best card in that range is in another couple years, because I guarantee that card at that point will be better than a 780Ti.

tl;dr: buy this cardSapphire Tri-X Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card + 3 AMD Reward Gold Tier Games for $359.99 AR *Back Again* 07-07-2014 - Slickdeals.net

Spend $360 now, that card is great. Theres no use spending double that amount for 10-20% more performance out of a 780ti. Sure the 780Ti is a more powerful card, but the 290 is WAY better bang for your buck.
 

Jysin

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Gotta concur. While that system is fantastic for $1500 as a whole, as a 1080p gaming system the 780 Ti is just stupidly overpowered. Spend half and get the R9, have money for a GPU upgrade a couple years down the road (that would be better than the 780 Ti).
 

Chanur

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Well I just bought a new 24 inch monitor so I'm not likely to change from 1080 any time soon.
 

jeydax

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Your call. You can save $260 by going with the R9 290 but it is a 15-25% slower card (not 10-20 as joeboo pointed out).

If you want to build a $1500 rig then the 780 Ti is the better choice.
If you want to build a $1250 rig then the R9 290 is the better choice.

Overall you'd be spending about 17% more on the whole rig for a 15-25% gain in FPS. Keep in mind that gain is going from 85 FPS to 105 FPS in BF4, 134 FPS to 161 FPS in Tomb Raider, 72 FPS to 97 FPS in Hitman, and 75 FPS to 90 FPS in Metro Last Light. If you don't think you'll care about that difference and want $260 in your pocket for other things then the R9 290 is a better card. But as far as I'm concerned this is a you get what you pay for thing. Those higher FPS as new games come out will go from being those 85 vs. 105 FPS numbers above to 32 vs. 40 FPS which is much easier to tell the difference of.
 

Mist

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Mist you could probably get a portable unit if you don't have a sill that'll support a normal window AC.

The portable units have a hose running out of the back of it you just run to the window.
Built a stand + shelf out of 2x4s to support the back end of the AC, then buried the base in the dirt. Looks redneck but it's in back of the house.

Portable ACs are ~30% inefficient by design. All sorts of waste heat from mechanical energy goes into the room, only the coil exhaust gets vented out.
 

jeydax

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Built a stand + shelf out of 2x4s to support the back end of the AC, then buried the base in the dirt. Looks redneck but it's in back of the house.

Portable ACs are ~30% inefficient by design. All sorts of waste heat from mechanical energy goes into the room, only the coil exhaust gets vented out.
LOL awesome.

Made me think of this:

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Joeboo

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Your call. You can save $260 by going with the R9 290 but it is a 15-25% slower card (not 10-20 as joeboo pointed out).

If you want to build a $1500 rig then the 780 Ti is the better choice.
If you want to build a $1250 rig then the R9 290 is the better choice.

Overall you'd be spending about 17% more on the whole rig for a 15-25% gain in FPS. Keep in mind that gain is going from 85 FPS to 105 FPS in BF4, 134 FPS to 161 FPS in Tomb Raider, 72 FPS to 97 FPS in Hitman, and 75 FPS to 90 FPS in Metro Last Light. If you don't think you'll care about that difference and want $260 in your pocket for other things then the R9 290 is a better card. But as far as I'm concerned this is a you get what you pay for thing. Those higher FPS as new games come out will go from being those 85 vs. 105 FPS numbers above to 32 vs. 40 FPS which is much easier to tell the difference of.
And with that $300 he saves now, that will buy a card that he'll need in 2 years regardless of if he goes 290 or 780ti, that is better than either of those cards. I think that's the main point in not spending $700 on a video card now. That card won't last 4-5 years to make that price worthwhile. It's going to be just as outdaded and slow in 2 to 2.5 years as the 290 and either will need to be replaced. Spending double on the video card now isn't going to make it last twice as long.

Lets look at a theoretical 4 year period (probably the average life of a gaming PC before people start to contemplate a complete rebuild, although that is lengthening, making incremental video card upgrades even more likely)

780Ti vs 290:

Year 1 - both are great, and playing games on 1080p with ultra settings at well over 60FPS
Year 2 - This is where the 780Ti probably has the advantage, the 290 may need to start to have some settings turned down to high, rather than ultra all the way like the 780Ti
Year 3 - The 780Ti is starting to fade, it has to be turned down below ultra. Alternately, you can ditch your 290 at this point and use the $300 you saved on a totally new card that is 2 generations newer and smokes both the 780Ti and the 290
Year 4 - 780Ti is useless unless you like playing games on low settings, while the new $300-$350 card is great for a solid 2+ years.

So when comparing the same amount of money overall, ~$700 or so, the 290 + new card in 2 years scenario is probably a tie in year 1, loses in year 2, but wins in years 3 and 4. Personally, I'd chose the option that is best(or tied for it) in 3 of the 4 years, than just 1 of the 4 years.

Of course, if budget and money is absolutely no matter, then throw all that out and just throw crazy money at your gaming PC and buy a new $700-$1000 video card every 18 months to stay on the bleeding edge. I just don't see any point in the video card costing more than the rest of your build combined, that's just dumb and not the best use of money when actual real-life budgets are in play.
 

jeydax

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780Ti vs 290:

Year 1 - both are great, and playing games on 1080p with ultra settings at well over 60FPS
Year 2 - This is where the 780Ti probably has the advantage, the 290 may need to start to have some settings turned down to high, rather than ultra all the way like the 780Ti
Year 3 - The 780Ti is starting to fade, it has to be turned down below ultra. Alternately, you can ditch your 290 at this point and use the $300 you saved on a totally new card that is 2 generations newer and smokes both the 780Ti and the 290
Year 4 - 780Ti is useless unless you like playing games on low settings, while the new $300-$350 card is great for a solid 2+ years.
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The GTX 590 is 3 years old ($700 at launch). If it is already "starting to fade" then the same nvidia card youjustrecommended on the last page, the GTX 770, is starting to fade too. Sure do like spending $300 for a card that is already dated, whew.

He gave a budget of $1500. I gave him the best 1080p gaming build available for a budget of $1,500. If he wanted a computer that was $1,250 and 15%-25% slower in games then he should buy the R9 290. Period. The $300 card two years from now will be just as fast as his card he's used for 2 years already. I guess we could go into detail about how that $300 difference isn't being invested and inflation and won't be worth as much and blah blah blah.

I normally agree with you joeboo but if the dude wants a banging 1080p build for $1500 then the 780 Ti is a far superior recommendation. He didn't ask for a $1,250 value build.
 

jeydax

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Does anyone have a link to a good gaming build for 1500 or less? Its going to be at 1080.
What games do you typically play by the way? If you're normally on the up and up of current games that might help decide on the GPU (and the rest of the build), too.
 

Chanur

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I play RPG's, RTS, and FPS almost exclusively. I don't play FPS or RTS competitively so I am not to concerned about that. About the only cutting edge game that I will be playing near release for the foreseeable future will be DA3 or Witcher 3.