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I think DDR4 will be usefull in some scenarios. It will certaily offer power savings in the portable market.

*edit* For clarification, I am talking about DDR4 being underwhelming from agamingperspective.

All about DDR4, the next-gen memory coming soon for PCs and mobile devices | PCWorld

Howard doesn?t consider DDR4 a must-have update for most people. ?Users don?t need 2400MHz speeds,? he said. ?In the PC world, except for the power-user segment, people aren?t screaming for more memory bandwidth.?

Kelt Reeves, president of boutique PC builder Falcon Northwest, echoed that sentiment. ?On current-generation CPUs, we see almost no benefit in DDR3 speeds above 1866MHz,? he said. ?For 2133MHz and higher, you have to specifically run memory bandwidth tests to see anything outside of margin-of-error in most benchmarks.?
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I don't have a 4k monitor but you can turn off AA on 4k, it's almost completely pointless unless you're sitting ontop of the damn thing. That gives you lots of your performance back.
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This isn't true at all. AA isn't very demanding any more.
 
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joeboo_sl said:
5 generations is about right before they have to switch up numbering systems. historically speaking. AMD tends to do the same. Both companies should really just go with some sort of numbering system that is year-based. Just be like car manufacturers. "Oh, here is my 2014 Nvidia GTX". Of course then you'd probably just end up with some sort of crazy arbitrary letter-based identification system for the various models within each generation, 2014 GT, 2014 GTX, 2014 TI, 2014 GLS, etc. It would still be confusing as hell probably.
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This would be much better, but like gogusrl says the confusion is intentional.

The gaming market and the next-gen is all about trying to claim that the next big thing is revolutionary, where as it's all pretty much the same incredible progress that is iterative and exciting. Just not revolutionary.
 
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Jysin_sl said:
I think this was expected. Not many games will ever utilize that many cores effectively (not anytime soon, anyway). The raw clock speed is having a greater effect, so the good old quad processor 4790k at a base clock of 4GHz is performing better than these new E chips (hex at 3.3 / 3.5GHz and octo at a measly 3GHz).

It doesn't seem like DDR4 is adding anything either.

Massive editing and video conversion seems to be the only place you would actually see real world gains with these new chips. As a gamer, you are better off investing that money into a better graphics card.
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I'm pretty happy with how it is now. I don't feel compelled to upgrade everything like what seemed to be the case in the 2000's. My mother board, RAM, and CPU can basically just stay the same and it doesn't make a difference. And really, my two year old video card seems to be holding up pretty well too (HD 7850).
 
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I've been running the Aviator browser for a little while now and it's very impressive for such a recent release. Sites load quickly (like the FSR/Video threads) and feels secure from the get-go. It operates like Chrome in many ways. Find out more info here:WhiteHat Aviator - The most secure browser online

Anyone have any experiences good or bad with this browser?
 
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Well time to build a new computer within the next few months. Current one is 5+ years old(i7 920 build) aside from my video card and the psu is starting to fail so its time. Whats the best cpu out there or is there anything about to be released within the next month or two?
 
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new nvidia cards benchmarked, pretty blah. hope we see bigger improvements next year
Only at VC: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, GTX 970, GTX 980M and GTX 970M 3DMark performance | VideoCardz.com

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On the other hand when you have so many AAA PC game ports being completely crippled due to console-port-must-not-look-bad it doesn't seem to matter much anyways. Dead Rising 3 is a real stinker
Digital Foundry vs Dead Rising 3 on PC Eurogamer.net

Gonna be interesting to see how Assassins Creed 5, Far Cry 4 and Dragons Age 3 play out on their PC ports. Of course with the big publishers now just pumping out sequel after sequel I guess indies and kickstarters are the way to go, PC gaming wise.
 
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spronk_sl said:
new nvidia cards benchmarked, pretty blah. hope we see bigger improvements next year
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While I think there are a lot of non-technical reasons why AMD and Nvidia like the current practice of higher prices and longer times between releases, they are both limited by the same process node manufacturing for what will now be three generations.
 
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spronk_sl said:
On the other hand when you have so many AAA PC game ports being completely crippled due to console-port-must-not-look-bad it doesn't seem to matter much anyways. Dead Rising 3 is a real stinker
Digital Foundry vs Dead Rising 3 on PC Eurogamer.net

Gonna be interesting to see how Assassins Creed 5, Far Cry 4 and Dragons Age 3 play out on their PC ports. Of course with the big publishers now just pumping out sequel after sequel I guess indies and kickstarters are the way to go, PC gaming wise.
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Ain't that the truth. It's like, hey PC gamers have these awesome machines, and we're not going to develop for them at all. Instead we'll develop for the static console machines and just dumb everything down so as to not take advantage of the PC systems.
 
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We do need more GPU power though with 4k coming down the pipe. Seems like we will have to wait for the next gen.

Unless there are some MAJOR driver optimizations, I can't see the point for anyone to upgrade from 7XX to 9XX. The benchmarks show negligible improvement whatsoever.

*Edit* The only play I can see out of this is if the pricing drops back down out of the stratosphere. Go back to their ~$400-$500 pricing for the top tier card (Titan, etc excluded) and scale down accordingly.
 
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GTX 970 will supposedly MSRP for $399 and 980 at $499, both with 4GB. Which means the 980 should be available on flash sales for $350-399 during holiday seasons, decent upgrade path for me (have 680 right now) but yeah no point in upgrading from a 780 if thats what you got. I'd expect 960 and 980 Ti models in early 2015 too.
 
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I'm guessing 980ti will be their big dick ballin' $750 20nm flagship in the spring.
 
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