Desktop Computers

Pizoi

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One other thing, /u/Jet_Pilot_Joe on Reddit sells legit Windows 8 keys for super cheap. I bought a Windows 8 Pro key from him for $12 USD via Paypal, the upgrade to 8.1 is free once installed, also bought a Windows 8.1 standard key for $14 for my parents. Took him a couple days to respond to my initial PM, but things went quickly after that. Pretty sure someone vouched for him earlier in this thread too.

I also agree that any sort of liquid cooling solution for that rig is overkill.
 

Mist

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Yeah soundcard is out, get rid of the cooler, get 500gb SSD.

That motherboard will not work out the box with that CPU. You need a Z97 motherboard, that's an B85 motherboard.

What is the need for those network cards?
 

Kuriin

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You don't need the adapter if you have a wireless card. Get rid of it. Most wireless adapter dongles are actually pretty good depending on the signal and antenna. I recommend getting a professional edition of an operating system. For that system, liquid cooling is kind of overkill -- just get a good heatsink.
 

Mist

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PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor($189.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard:MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory:Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory($60.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage:Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive($74.19 @ OutletPC)
Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card($199.00 @ NCIX US)
Case:Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter:Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total:$823.98

Motherboard has built in LAN/Sound. The stock cooler is fine for that CPU.

Upgrade the SSD if you want to spend more money. Also feel free to change that case out.

EDITS: That HDD sucked.
 

Woefully Inept

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Woefully Inept

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Stop looking at pre-mades. Seriously you'll get soooooo much more for your money building your own. It's very very easy to put a PC together these days. You won't regret it.

That video card alone is laughable for a $700 machine.
 

Malakriss

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You can get the i5-4460 or i7-4790 versions of an XPS 8700 for $699 straight from Dell. The ebay seller likely hit them on sale last month for $500 or something and they fleece buyers with the slightly less overpriced tower + their own jacked upgrade options.

Buying a pre-made tower is lazy and you pay a premium for it. But paying more premiums on top of premium simply to swap out RAM, hard drives, or a GPU should never be done. At least learn how to install that much and pay far less.
 

Joeboo

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Honestly, if you want an SSD, you're going to have to re-install Windows when you pull the HD out of a pre-built PC, and installing Windows is literally like 50% of the time and effort of building a PC.
 

Gravy

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Honestly, if you want an SSD, you're going to have to re-install Windows when you pull the HD out of a pre-built PC, and installing Windows is literally like 50% of the time and effort of building a PC.
And honestly, I don't know what I want. Most folks here say yes to the SSD. Anyway, I really feel awkward dumbing this thread down so much, so I'll skeedaddle.
 

Jysin

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Honest to god, an SSD has been the biggest leap in computers since the 3D graphics card.

Every single person I have ever talked to would never even consider a traditional HDD again as their main OS Boot drive.

It's just that noticeable!
 

Jilariz_sl

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And honestly, I don't know what I want. Most folks here say yes to the SSD. Anyway, I really feel awkward dumbing this thread down so much, so I'll skeedaddle.
You want an SSD. Without it a modern computer just doesn't feel modern. Hard drives perform operations measured in milliseconds - thousands of a second. SSDs are measured in microseconds - millionths of a second. You'd need100 hard drives working together to get decent performance compared to an SSD, and the SSD would still be faster.
 

Joeboo

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And honestly, I don't know what I want. Most folks here say yes to the SSD. Anyway, I really feel awkward dumbing this thread down so much, so I'll skeedaddle.
Nah man, that's what this thread is for, bounce some ideas around and people will try to help you get the most bang for your buck.

Everyone here is just pushing towards building yourself, because you can get a GREAT 1080p gaming PC that will last like 5+ years(with one video card upgrade after the 2 year mark) for about $1000.

You can get something comparable for similar money pre-built, but it's probably not going to last you more than 2-3 years tops, as it'll have a sub-par PSU, a small case that makes upgrading difficult, and a traditional HD.

So, you can build your own for $1000, plan on needing a new video card in 2 to 2.5 years for another $200, and you're solidly gaming for 5 years.

Going pre-built, you spend $1000 now, and instead of just a video card upgrade in 2 to 2.5 years, you're shelling out another $1000 on a new system. I think it's worth the 2-3 hours of work now, to avoid that later. I don't know about you, but I don't make $400 an hour at my job that it isn't worth spending 2 hours to save ~$800 over the course of the next half decade.

Computers are so much easier to put together now than they were 10 years ago or more. The only thing I even needed a screwdriver for was screwing the motherboard and PSU into the case, thats it. The case itself has thumbscrews for opening it, the expansion port covers on the back were thumbscrews, all of my hard drives just snapped into the bays on easily removeable trays. Plug in probably 5 power cables, and you're done. CPU snaps in, RAM snaps in, video card snaps in. I've put together Lego sets rated as ages 6-10 that are harder than physically putting a computer together.
 

dizzie

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NAS build.

I have managed to buy 6x 2TB WD Black drives (from a friend who does stuff with servers) for a very reasonable price.

Shit i have lying about would be:

FX-4100 AMD CPU
8 GB of RAM (RAM fits the MB/CPU)
M5A78L-M LX PLUS mb
a kingston 64 mb SSD from 2011/12
Non brand psu (although i would expect to buy a branded one for a NAS)

Needs:

Case preferable small - built mini ITX for all my builds previously and have a powerhouse PC that is very very small. Current build is in a lian li q25 case.
Quiet running.
PSU recommendations.

Considerations:

Im pretty into the power savings is this chip a dog when it comes to power? Not sure the chip/mb was given to me a year or more ago.


Also could this be a plex server too? Wired via powerline boxes to my tv and such?
 

jooka

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And honestly, I don't know what I want. Most folks here say yes to the SSD. Anyway, I really feel awkward dumbing this thread down so much, so I'll skeedaddle.
SSD is something you don't realize how big of a boost it is till you experience it. You know the saying once you go black ... well same applies for SSD's
 

Joeboo

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My wife had pretty much stopped using her laptop, because it was SO slow compared to her tablet for general web browsing/facebooking/pinterest etc. Every time she'd go to turn it on she'd have to wait like 2-3 minutes for it to boot up and be usable. Swapped in a Samsung SSD this past weekend with a fresh Windows install and it made all the difference, it's basically as fast as our Nexus and Samusng tablets now. Literally 10-15 seconds from cold boot to web browsing, down from 2-3 minutes previously. She's back to using her laptop again more than the tablets.
 

mkopec

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Especially since cheaper web and document laptops all pretty much use 5400rpm hard drives, which takes something thats already slow as shit, and makes it even slower.

I bought my wifes old man a laptop, some dell cheapie for $400. All he wanted was a web surfing machine. Well I got a 256gb SSD to go along with it $150 more. Plugged that thing in there and its like night and day. He thinks he has a fucking supercomputer compared to his old 2008 Dell he had.

Result? Old Man is happy as shit, wife is happy as shit, therefore Im happy as shit.
 

Joeboo

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Not to mention I have to assume it will help battery life somewhat in a laptop, not having to power a drive that uses moving parts, although I doubt either is anything significant just compared to powering the screen. The screen has to be about 75% of a laptops power consumption, or more depending on the size.
 

Crone

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I have a SSD , because everyone told me to get one, but for everything I do, I've never seen much difference. Everyone screams that it's a huge boost, and I'm sure it is, but I have an Samsung EVO on my desktop, and recently had to switch to my wife's gaming laptop that's at 7200rpm, and I didn't miss my Desktop at all.

By all means get it, because it's awesome and everyone says to get one, but personal perception of speed may vary. lol