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Any reason you dont have a free upgrade to W10?
Id drop the dvd/br drive imo, ive yet to need one in 7 years
Since you arent going to be OCing id go with a entry motherboard, can save $100;ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Fatal1ty Z97 Killer) - PCPartPickeris what I use
Id drop the dvd/br drive imo, ive yet to need one in 7 years
Since you arent going to be OCing id go with a entry motherboard, can save $100;ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Fatal1ty Z97 Killer) - PCPartPickeris what I use
It's my roommate's computer and he asked to go with Windows 8 because he said his Norton antivirus isn't compatible with Win10. His call, not mine.
I had advised him to go with BR read only but it's like a $10 savings is all. Again, his call.
Now the motherboard is a good catch I was hoping someone would make. I went with the higher performance of the Sabertooth Asus mobo a few years back when I put an i7 3570k processor in my rig, which was $300 processor with a $200 mobo. I noticed in this build that the mobo was more than the processor, which I was hoping someone would pick up on and recommend a variation. Thank you.
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So not sure what to do at this point.
My budget for a graphics card is about $300 tops, I don't really want to go above that. I think the 1060 GTX or whatever might fit that budget - will that be better performance per dollar, or will the inevitable price drops on the higher end cards from the current generation be a better deal?
Also having no GPU in this PC for a couple months is kind of shitty, but I don't want to spend $100 on a temp one just to throw it out.
My budget for a graphics card is about $300 tops, I don't really want to go above that. I think the 1060 GTX or whatever might fit that budget - will that be better performance per dollar, or will the inevitable price drops on the higher end cards from the current generation be a better deal?
Also having no GPU in this PC for a couple months is kind of shitty, but I don't want to spend $100 on a temp one just to throw it out.
I'd be willing to bet that if nVidia keeps its historical pricing structures in place for Pascal, you could probably pick up a 970 for less than $150 - $200, or a 980 for under $250. If not retail, certainly on eBay. Depends on the performance gains on Pascal - we'll know more after Friday, probably. But if the 1070 is on par with the 980 Ti and sells for ~$350, then those 980s are going to go cheap. And I really doubt a $200ish 1060 would outperform a 980.
Also, Skylake has been a pretty meh improvement over Devil's Canyon - and the price premium means that i5 4690k/Z97 motherboard combinations tend to be a great spot for bang for the buck.
Also, Skylake has been a pretty meh improvement over Devil's Canyon - and the price premium means that i5 4690k/Z97 motherboard combinations tend to be a great spot for bang for the buck.
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If it was 350 for some th ing on part with a 980 ti then I'd just buy that, gotta see what the best deal is I guess.
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Wait for Friday, should see some benchmarks pop up by then or the weekend.
the 1070 or however they name it eclipsing a 980 ti is pretty unlikely, but it'll definitely be a step up from a 970, maybe even on par with a 980?
For what it's worth I sold my 980 about 2 months ago for ~300$, so getting one around that price point off ebay/cragislist will certainly be doable after the new launch.
the 1070 or however they name it eclipsing a 980 ti is pretty unlikely, but it'll definitely be a step up from a 970, maybe even on par with a 980?
For what it's worth I sold my 980 about 2 months ago for ~300$, so getting one around that price point off ebay/cragislist will certainly be doable after the new launch.
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If I had to guess, historically speaking, the new cards will probably push performance/price similar to the higher tier from the previous gen
i.e.
1060(~$200) = 970
1070(`$300) = 980
1080($500+) should be 980Ti or above performance
And then a 1080Ti($700+) will blow the shit out of everything
So if a 1070 launches around $300 and give 980(not Ti) performance, 980s should be down into the $200s quickly. And 970s should(in theory) be well under $200, maybe $150.
i.e.
1060(~$200) = 970
1070(`$300) = 980
1080($500+) should be 980Ti or above performance
And then a 1080Ti($700+) will blow the shit out of everything
So if a 1070 launches around $300 and give 980(not Ti) performance, 980s should be down into the $200s quickly. And 970s should(in theory) be well under $200, maybe $150.
Noodleface
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Decisions decisions. I could never spent $700+ on a card. Maybe a 1070 would be a sweet spot.
That would be a kick in the face. 980 was almost imperceptibly better than 970. If they can't jump further apart than that on a 40% die shrink and new architecture, then they might as well just give up - AMD will almost certainly eat their lunch if they can't do better than that.
I would remind you that 970 was almost identical performance to 780 Ti ($649 just prior to Maxwell release) starting at $329. And that was on the same 28nm process!
My money is on 1070 being roughly equal to 980 Ti, 1060 being roughly between 970 and 980, and 1080 being the fastest single-card solution on the market. With 480X releasing shortly afterward and being roughly comparable to the 390X in performance (between 970 and 980) at a $200-$250 price point, and competing between 1060 and 1070.
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If you already have a 900 series card just wait for the 1080ti HBM2 SuperUltraClocked whatever in Q1 2017.
The fact that these initial cards are shipping without HBM2 makes them not really worth buying unless you're stuck on a 770 or lower and even then I'd just buy the 1070 instead of the 1080.
The fact that these initial cards are shipping without HBM2 makes them not really worth buying unless you're stuck on a 770 or lower and even then I'd just buy the 1070 instead of the 1080.
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I'm stuck with nothing right now. I've been using a gaming laptop since 2010 or 2011 (first gen i7)
my old desktop has a Radeon 9800 GTX in it.
I have to buy SOMETHING. I'd buy something today, but I don't want to waste my money wth new stuff being released.
my old desktop has a Radeon 9800 GTX in it.
I have to buy SOMETHING. I'd buy something today, but I don't want to waste my money wth new stuff being released.
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It isn't necessarily a waste of money to buy now. Think of it this way, is being able to game on your PC for the next month or two worth the maybe $100 in savings you might lose out on?
You could buy a 970 now and start using it now, or wait for June/July and get a better card for the same money, or that 970 for probably $100 less than it costs now. But what are you losing out on in those months? Can you even use your PC or do anything at all with it that you want to do?
Personally, there's no chance that I'm going without gaming for up to 2 months over $100(or less), but that's a personal choice based on budget/money.
You could buy a 970 now and start using it now, or wait for June/July and get a better card for the same money, or that 970 for probably $100 less than it costs now. But what are you losing out on in those months? Can you even use your PC or do anything at all with it that you want to do?
Personally, there's no chance that I'm going without gaming for up to 2 months over $100(or less), but that's a personal choice based on budget/money.
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I haven't really been a PC gamer in years (just WoW) - so I'm not missing on too much. I'm still waiting for all the other parts and setting up the office for it, but i probably will buy something. I wish I had this great idea in another month instead of over the weekend.
I was going to buy a 750Ti or something on the cheap, but that might actually be a waste of money.
I was going to buy a 750Ti or something on the cheap, but that might actually be a waste of money.
If you're running on hardware that's 8 years old, I can't imagine that the next few weeks are worth $100 in depreciation/missed opportunity.
Also, 750 Ti is/was mainly neat because it can be set up without additional connnectors for the power supply, so it's a good way to semi-modernize an old pre-made system with a cheap PSU. For the same price today, the 950 is much more powerful for basically the same price. I think they just refreshed it, in fact, with a version that doesn't even require external power.
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Is the EVGA step-up deal my best bet right now?
I was going to buy a GTX 970 and just step-up to something new (if the timeline works out).
My other option was a B-stock GTX 970 for $250. I'm not trying to penny pinch really, just maximizing performance to my dollar.
I was going to buy a GTX 970 and just step-up to something new (if the timeline works out).
My other option was a B-stock GTX 970 for $250. I'm not trying to penny pinch really, just maximizing performance to my dollar.
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You'd be safe if they announce an upgrade for sure. I think it's 90 days you have.
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I just hope the step-up deal is fairly painless, I know I'd be without a GPU for a bit if I did it. From what I read they don't have you send yours in until the new one is ready, so at least they minimize it.
Edit: Fuck it, bought the EVGA version. Worst case the step-up program sucks balls and I don't do it, but at least I have a good card now.
Upgrading from a 9800 GTS to this should be interesting.
My laptop is a G73JH with a Radeon HD46xx or something, so pretty old.
Edit: Fuck it, bought the EVGA version. Worst case the step-up program sucks balls and I don't do it, but at least I have a good card now.
Upgrading from a 9800 GTS to this should be interesting.
My laptop is a G73JH with a Radeon HD46xx or something, so pretty old.