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joeboo_sl said:
Theres no perceivable performance difference. The only difference are price(4 will generally be cheaper, smaller GB per stick), but going 2 leaves room for expansion later without wasting sticks by having to replace them, so that's a tradeoff. I guess the only other issues would be using less overall voltage for just 2 sticks, and you'd probably have better luck overclocking with just 2 vs 4 if that is something you plan on doing.
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Depends on how good the memory controller is. It is more work for it to see and use more DIMMS.
 
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joeboo_sl said:
Theres no perceivable performance difference. The only difference are price(4 will generally be cheaper, smaller GB per stick), but going 2 leaves room for expansion later without wasting sticks by having to replace them, so that's a tradeoff. I guess the only other issues would be using less overall voltage for just 2 sticks, and you'd probably have better luck overclocking with just 2 vs 4 if that is something you plan on doing.
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Don't plan to do any overclocking, been years since I was into all that and I live in AZ so last thing I want to do is add more heat to the room. Here is what I have so far, I am debating if I should get a 200mm fan for the top of the case.

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant/Benchmarks

CPU:Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler($36.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case:Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case($74.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply:SeaSonic M12II 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply($89.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)($90.91 @ Amazon)
Total:$1302.83


Any advice would be great.
 
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Scyfi_sl said:
Don't plan to do any overclocking, been years since I was into all that and I live in AZ so last thing I want to do is add more heat to the room. Here is what I have so far, I am debating if I should get a 200mm fan for the top of the case.

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant/Benchmarks

CPU:Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler($36.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case:Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case($74.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply:SeaSonic M12II 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply($89.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)($90.91 @ Amazon)
Total:$1302.83


Any advice would be great.
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Looks good, however, I took a chance with MSI on the motherboard, and I am blown away by it. I've been an Asus guy for a really long time. Their GD and M-power series, I would atleast look at what they offer.
 
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Scyfi_sl said:
Don't plan to do any overclocking, been years since I was into all that and I live in AZ so last thing I want to do is add more heat to the room. Here is what I have so far, I am debating if I should get a 200mm fan for the top of the case.

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant/Benchmarks

CPU:Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler($36.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case:Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case($74.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply:SeaSonic M12II 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply($89.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)($90.91 @ Amazon)
Total:$1302.83


Any advice would be great.
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Looks good to me as well. If you don't intend to overclock you could go with an H87 chipset motherboard rather than a Z87 one, it would save you a few dollars. Also, I would get Windows 8, despite the epic whining and nerd raging you hear all the time (mostly by people that don't use it) Win 8 is very good and a better OS than Win 7 for the same price.
 
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That zalman cooler you should replace with a CM212 evo. The evo will give you better performance, you can mount better more expensive quieter fans on it easily, its a bit cheaper, not as heavy and clunky (the zalman is 80g over the max recommended 450g specified by Intel and AMD.) and easier to install. Also the Zalmans heat pipes do not directly touch the processor as they do on a 212 and heat is transferred from the ends of the heat pipe to the middle rather than from one end to the other like they should.
 
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The stock ones are pretty decent, but some swear by cougar vortex. But if noise is an issue im sure there are better quieter 120mm fans out there as well. I never bothered to switch mine out or add another for a push pull config. I just left it stock and it works well. Actually in normal gaming situations its pretty quiet as well.

The thing is that you have options in an 212 evo setup that you dont in that zalman. I mean, whats the first thing to go on a cooler? The mechanical part right? Which is easily replaceable on a 212, not so much on that zalman.
 
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Just put this together for $2,018

Thermaltake Level 10GThttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133188
Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator &amp; Fan
CPU: I7 4770Khttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116901
Mobo: MSI z87 G45http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130693
Video card SLI x2: GTX770 superclockedhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130921
120GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD
16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply

Used cyberpowerPC, saved around 250 bucks instead of building it from scratch. They got a summer upgrade sale for the 770s at the price of the 670s. Then a 5% off coupon helped too.
 
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770 GTX SLI is so not even worth it on Haswell platforms. At 8x I don't know if it can even fully utilize both cards.
 
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Mist_sl said:
770 GTX SLI is so not even worth it on Haswell platforms. At 8x I don't know if it can even fully utilize both cards.
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One 770 is pretty amazing I will admit.

Do you know any good z87 overclock information? I got mine up to 4.6 on air but not stable under stress test. The automated overclock by the motherboard has been flawless, though. So im not sure I even need to persue it further. Anything over 4 GHZ makes my fans too loud.
 
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I'm pretty sure you should just leave the thing at stock and let turbo mode do the work, unless you really just like to see numbers on CPU-Z or whatever.
 
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Mist_sl said:
770 GTX SLI is so not even worth it on Haswell platforms. At 8x I don't know if it can even fully utilize both cards.
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Hmmm, I got an old 3930K I7 in my old system, would that better utilize the SLI?
 
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Well, it depends, how much do you intend to overclock? What monitor resolution (and number of monitors) are you running? Do you mind waiting a few months for the next stepping of the Haswell chips which will probably be more thermally efficient?

Also, for 2 grand, you should get a bigger SSD, at least 256GB. Most people prefer the Samsung Pro or Intel SSDs, I honestly haven't researched them much though since the Samsung is so popular and universally recommended.
 
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yeah get a 256gb SSD its the sweet price point right now, will be 512GB in six months. I'm pretty careful what I put on my SSD and I'm at 150gb used, Windows + apps is going to be 30-40gb and games nowadays can be huge.
 
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