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So after waiting 9 days, my I5-4690k still showed as pre-order on Newegg without charging me. Today I found this combo deal for 4th of july sales.

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

Canceled my pre-order, and ordered this, and they charged me right away, and it says Packaging. Guess they had some CPU's afterall? meh saved 80 bucks.

MossyBank_sl said:

So after waiting 9 days, my I5-4690k still showed as pre-order on Newegg without charging me. Today I found this combo deal for 4th of july sales.

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

Canceled my pre-order, and ordered this, and they charged me right away, and it says Packaging. Guess they had some CPU's afterall? meh saved 80 bucks.

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I'm in the process of piecing my build together. Its mainly the budget build (1080P) that everyone keeps throwing around on this forum. Now, is that motherboard better or about the same as thisASRock Z87 Extreme4 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gbs USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com? It seems like an excellent deal and would like to start ordering parts as the deals pop up.

Also, do I need to worry with a sound card if i'm just gaming or just playing music casually? Thanks in advance!

Gator_sl said:

I'm in the process of piecing my build together. Its mainly the budget build (1080P) that everyone keeps throwing around on this forum. Now, is that motherboard better or about the same as thisASRock Z87 Extreme4 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gbs USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com? It seems like an excellent deal and would like to start ordering parts as the deals pop up.

Also, do I need to worry with a sound card if i'm just gaming or just playing music casually? Thanks in advance!

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Nah, don't worry about a sound card, on-board sound is perfectly fine for gaming and listening to music.

That ASRock mobo is solid, I'm a big fan of ASRock, they make solid boards that are very reasonably priced. I have an ASRock in my current gaming PC, an intel 3570k CPU that's been overcloced from 3.4ghz to 4.8ghz for about 18 months now and its still as stable as can be. Zero crashes, and I reboot maybe once a month on average(leave it on 24/7)

Mist_sl said:

None of those are MMOs or Skyrim or some other sandbox game.

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Nor does it show minimum frames or frame latency, but the answer is the same as always when it comes to gaming: buy more GPU over more CPU if you can't afford both.

I'll put money that at the settings we actually game at, a 2500k with a next gen 880(ti)/390(x) will give better framerates in the vast majority of titles than a 4690k with a 780(ti)/290(x).

Whoever was asking earlier in the thread if they should get an H100i, I have one I'll gladly donate or send to you if you pay for shipping. It's not even a year old, I just switched to a Noctua DH-15 and my temps are nearly identical w/o all the paranoia of a leaky cooler happening during that whole 5 year warranty period. But yea, H100i up for grabs, I'll even send a copy of the original purchase receipt so you can verify warranty as needed.

Thanks Joe for the for the answer. The tech assistance rocks guys. I love reading through the forums even though I feel like I'm reading an alien language at times.
Anyways, here's what I've come up with so far
[PCPartPicker part list](Intel Core i5-4690K, EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti, Corsair SPEC-01 RED - System Build - PCPartPicker) / [Price breakdown by merchant](Intel Core i5-4690K, EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti, Corsair SPEC-01 RED - System Build - Price Breakdown By Merchant - PCPartPicker)

Type|Item|Price
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CPU | [Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (BX80646I54690K) - PCPartPicker) | $239.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | [ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Fatal1ty Z97 Killer) - PCPartPicker) | $134.99 @ Newegg
Memory | [G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL) - PCPartPicker) | $82.98 @ OutletPC
Storage | [Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5 Solid State Drive (MZ-7TE250BW) - PCPartPicker) | $139.08 @ Amazon
Video Card | [EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card](EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card (02G-P4-3753-KR) - PCPartPicker) | $139.99 @ Micro Center
Case | [Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case](Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (SPEC-01 RED LED) - PCPartPicker) | $39.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS) - PCPartPicker) | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Operating System | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)](Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (WN7-00615) - PCPartPicker) | $89.98 @ OutletPC
| |Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $883.98

I'm not done with it. Need to add some fans for the case. I'm going to pull the PSU out of my current PC which I built in 2007 on a budget (PSU is only 2-3years old). Needless to say I'm due for an upgrade. Its sad when DiabloIII load times take forever not to mention the fps drops nor could I play Wildstar on it. Questions: 1. Do you think I need to add a cpu cooler or stock is fine? 2. The GPU: Is there any company I should go with or avoid? I noticed MSI, Evga, and Asus all have their own SC editions but I'm not sure if there is a good one to go with. I like the Evga version because its tiny, so I know it will fit. Plus, it uses less power even though its for a little more money.
If anyone has recommendations or input on my build I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks again

Check this build out. Its CPU can't be overclocked, it has a smaller SSD, and I did not include an optical drive since I haven't had need of one in years. For virtually the same price as what you posted... The following build will probably give you 60-70% (at least) higher performance in gaming... It will also be far more effective in the long term with the additional VRAM of the 770. Something tells me you don't upgrade often, so that is something to keep in mind.

Intel Core i5-4440, Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770, Corsair SPEC-01 RED - System Build - PCPartPicker

Up to you though. If the massive SSD and an overclockable CPU are important to you then go for it. But both things do very little for gaming performance. The CPU I selected will still give you 95% of the performance (in most cases. Fuck you Forgelight engine) of the one you selected for like 20% less money. You could just add an optical drive and larger SSD for around $50. Keep in mind, the build I posted will require a substantial power supply (450w)

Gator_sl said:

Questions: 1. Do you think I need to add a cpu cooler or stock is fine? 2. The GPU: Is there any company I should go with or avoid? I noticed MSI, Evga, and Asus all have their own SC editions but I'm not sure if there is a good one to go with. I like the Evga version because its tiny, so I know it will fit. Plus, it uses less power even though its for a little more money.
If anyone has recommendations or input on my build I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks again

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1. Stock cooler are fine if you aren't overlocking(or just overclocking a little bit, like taking a 3.4ghz CPU up to 4ghz). The main advantage of aftermarket coolers is that they will often be quieter, and will help if you are pushing high overclocks (1ghz+ over stock speeds). A lot of stock coolers can be loud as all hell when they really rev up.

2. I've owned GPUs from almost all of the major brands (EVGA, MSI, PNY, Asus, Gigabyte) and I really don't think any 1 is significantly better than any other. I always just buy the cheapest one available at the time that I'm ready to buy.

Sorry Quiad, I guess I should of stated that I bought the mobo/cpu in a combo deal already. I saved around $80 so It was more in range with what you suggested. It was a deal Mossybank posted a few posts back. You have a good point about the GPU though. I'll probably go with the 760 SC edition and save some money for a new monitor. I'm still rolling with 1680x1050. I don't think I can justify spending $300+ for a gpu. I just don't game on a computer like I use too and have leaned more towards console gaming. (yes, i left the master race for the peasants!)
Monitor I'll probably getAmazon.com: ASUS VG248QE 24-Inch Screen LED-lit Monitor: Computers AccessoriesSeems like the most popular choice

Lastly, A question.... The reason chose the Samsung Evo SSD was all the praise I've heard/read about them. Would I lose any performance if I went with a cheaper SSD say the Crucial MX100 or Sandisk? Or is it so minute it doesn't justify the price hike? Never have had an SSD before so this is new to me.

Gator_sl said:

Sorry Quiad, I guess I should of stated that I bought the mobo/cpu in a combo deal already. I saved around $80 so It was more in range with what you suggested. It was a deal Mossybank posted a few posts back. You have a good point about the GPU though. I'll probably go with the 760 SC edition and save some money for a new monitor. I'm still rolling with 1680x1050. I don't think I can justify spending $300+ for a gpu. I just don't game on a computer like I use too and have leaned more towards console gaming. (yes, i left the master race for the peasants!)
Monitor I'll probably getAmazon.com: ASUS VG248QE 24-Inch Screen LED-lit Monitor: Computers AccessoriesSeems like the most popular choice

Lastly, A question.... The reason chose the Samsung Evo SSD was all the praise I've heard/read about them. Would I lose any performance if I went with a cheaper SSD say the Crucial MX100 or Sandisk? Or is it so minute it doesn't justify the price hike? Never have had an SSD before so this is new to me.

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Performance difference between the 840 EVO and the one I posted in my build are minimal.

Also, what joe said about gpu manufacturers is pretty much what I do too. I try to grab EVGA cards if I can because they have a crazy good warranty.

Stock coolers are generally never fine. Don't skimp out on cooling your CPU. Even if you don't get water cooling, you still want an aftermarket heatsink.

If he is not overclocking, a stock cooler is perfectly fine.

Sure there are very cheap options for big cooling gains, but in reality stock is just fine.

Kuriin_sl said:

Stock coolers are generally never fine. Don't skimp out on cooling your CPU. Even if you don't get water cooling, you still want an aftermarket heatsink.

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Stock cooling is totally fine if you aren't overclocking and you aren't overly worried about noise. They aren't going to shorten the life of your cpu or anything of that sort. That being said you can get a good aftermarket air cooler for under $30 so we aren't talking a ton of money but if you don't need it you don't need it. Put that $25-$30 into upgrading another component that you will notice a difference in.

Just picked this up:EVGA GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked with ACX Cooler 4 GB

darkmiasma_sl said:

Just picked this up:EVGA GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked with ACX Cooler 4 GB

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Grats. You made an excellent choice IMO

Mist_sl said:

Stock cooling original Haswell hasn't worked out well for me. Then again, it's 82 degrees in here.

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Ya... Blowing hot ass air through your tower isn't going to do much in the way of cooling. Your situation may require something more powerful (liquid).