Destiny 2 - Clan Link 1st Post

Abefroman said:

You pre-ordered I mean "lost a bet" the collectors edition didn't you.

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If it's actually good this time around, I won't have a problem plunking down 30 bucks for it. (Trade in, GCU) to give it a shot. The game play mechanics were good (Which should be expected in this day in age, but something else that bothered me with the praise of this game.... as if we shouldn't come to expect good shooting/combat in a shooter in 2017 as standard anyhow, 26 years after Doom Shareware hit the streets) but everything else from mission design pre TKK to leveling was mundane as shit. Go investigate, fight through enemies to get to a POI, "Let me hack this" says Peter... "OH NO. THE FALLEN". Fight 3 waves of enemies, collect loot. Over... and over.... and over.... and over... again and again.

If Destiny 2 doesn't mess up their combat mechanics, has stable servers, has mission variety this time while leveling and different things to do besides the above repeated for 20 hours worth of content. I'd definitely check it out.

Ok serious question: Why get hypes for a game play reveal. 1) It will (Should) be the same combat mechanics you have already seen. 2) Based on the blatantly and epic false advertisement in the last game, what makes you think whatever they say won't be bullshit like last time?

ZyyzYzzy said:

Was a decently entertaining game that I still play occasionally?

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You don't count. You have a brain. You are also not "OH MY GOD I MUST SEE THIS GAME PLAY REVEAL AND I HAVE CALLED IN SICK FOR WORK TOMORROW AND BOUGHT POPCORN AND CHEESE ITS! OH MY GOD ITS REALLY HAPPENING OH BOY OH MAN HOLY SHIT!"

You, like other's here, are going to check it out and say "Looks the same - probably will check it out since I liked the first".

In other words ZyyzYzzy - you are a good gamer.

Personally, I think it is going to flop. The measure of the first, which a majority panned regardless of how much it sold, will be the true tale of the IP's receiving in the gaming world. And Bungie = Bioware basically at this point. All their good talent has fled.

Mizake said:

... fixing the shortcomings such as lack of matchmaking or ingame LFG for raids.

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This right here was my biggest gripe. I hope so too. And dont fret about Ut, hes just trolling you guys.

mkopec said:

This right here was my biggest gripe. I hope so too. And dont fret about Ut, hes just trolling you guys.

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Honestly in this one I am not. People need to remember just how bad of shape this was launched in from what was promised. How it was actually gotten away with without tons of lawsuits for false advertising appalls me. Aside from some folks liking it, none of what they said would happen, actually happened. There was no grand story, there wasn't a 10 year plan, free updates, etc. It turned into a game being cut into 3 pieces to resell two as DLC which aborted what story they did have, then came the microtransactions for emotes, a broken loot system, with one redeeming point being TKK.

I know you like the game play mechanics - but honestly, how can anyone sit there with a straight face and say we shouldn't have these gun play mechanics in all our games as a standard? The fact any FPS's do NOT have responsiveness/good hit feedback/shooting feel to this standard should be absolutely, 100%, ridiculed - while at the same time, any game coming out having these mechanics should NOT be praised in return. This type of feel should be 100% expected in this climate.

Something else people need to stay grounded on is Bungie is history. Just as Bioware is history. They do not call the shots - Activision does. So prepare yourself for the worst when it comes to more content being cut, more microtransactions instead of earning in the game, and quite very well possibly some pay to win features sooner rather than later.

I say that because this first game should have been decimated based on just how poorly it was delivered from marketing to launch. It seemed like one gigantic experiment in what Activision could get away with. Usually, that bar presses back hard (Microsoft's Xbox One) and changes revert back. There was a LOT of disgust at first, but the garbage / shallow design of this game kept flowing in. I saw more depth from F2P shooters when this came out. Point being that they will press the bar even further to see what they can get away with, and why not try it with this.

Ritley said:

I don't think Ut is trolling, he's just a pessimist. I agree with most of his gripes with games actually, but he goes from 0 to "Rape and kill every developer's family" pretty quick

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Not to that extent. We just need to remember what happened last time and not give them a pass. One of their developers posts here and seems like a decent guy, and hell, most of the people doing the actual development have their hearts in the right place. It's Activision here people should be worried about, and some idiot from a year or so back telling the gaming community how much value there is in buying emotes for 5 bucks a shot, and actually having the balls to say that's "Content". That needs to be culled. Because Destiny was a gigantic lowering of the bar to the point people were all "But the shooting mechanics... so awesome". No. The shooting mechanics should be as standard in an FPS as cheese is to my pizza. It's the content in the game and effort in the richness of the world building that matters, hell, even mission design. And all of that was one generic copy paste or proc gen nightmare from patrol point to patrol point/mission point to mission point.

Only The Taken King gives me ANY hope they actually might do something better in the actual game department this time around. But I sure as well won't be getting hyped to preorder a game based on seeing a new environment and the shooting mechanics we should * always * see from any FPS made after 2001.