Destiny 2 - Clan Link 1st Post

Droigan said:

Hopefully they add real matchmaking to to PvP in some system that can judge skill level in some way, not just the PvE level.

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They did and will most assuredly do so in D2. It was all about the skill based match making, pretty robust system too that everyone bitched and complained about. The only way to thwart this system was to create a new character and go destroy noobs for a few levels until once again they system labeled you a top 1% god and put you back into the sweaty compound with the other try hards. Maybe SBMM is not fully functional in a 2 day beta, but trust me, once it sees you play, say 20 games and decides what score to put you into, youre fucked, and playing with others just like you. This system even takes precedence over connection too. So you will be constantly playing with yellow and red bar peeps because of SBMM.

Now you might think that a system like this is what you really want, but its not. It turns every single PvP match into a sweaty contest of try hards, especially when you get good enough to overcome that 1.0K/D. not only this, but lets say you want to play some PvP matches with your budy, but your buddy is a PvP god, well you get where this is going and why it never works and why people bitch about it, especially the connection issue. Since they chose Skill vs connection every time for match making, youre constantly playing against laggy opponents from venezuela and peru.

99% of the Bungie.net forum posts that are trending right now all say "Remove SBMM" • r/DestinyTheGame

SBMM upgraded me, now Crucible isn't fun • r/DestinyTheGame

There are LOADS of posts on this sub about players' unrest with SBMM, here's a few of them from just the last few days. Bungie, please consider changing your current match making setup. • r/DestinyTheGame

Ya, it's a beautiful game on the PC (going from PS4 and its abysmal frame rate to PC was night and day). However, it will be just as shallow and hollow as the first one if the beta was anything to go by. The pvp game size change was really strange, no additional modes/classes etc, recycled enemies.... I dunno, the whole thing just screams lazy cash grab to me. At least throw in a large scale PVP zone ala AV, a new class, something... Kinda makes sense though when the director is a former video games journalist. All it takes is watching one interview with the guy on youtube to realize he has no fucking idea what he's doing.

Zindan said:

Is there some other fps shooter that isn't "shallow and hollow" in its PvE aspect? Does it really bother people that Bungie decided to call this Destiny 2, rather than say Destiny: Red Legion? My biggest criticism for D2 is the removal of all D1 content. The PvE side of things looks the same, with some tweaks to gear and a more robust Patrol, plus a super annoying Ghost. The PvP changes seem unnecessary for the "low intensity" play, but the 4v4 for "high intensity" seems fine.

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Well, the PVP aspect is even more hollow so what does this game have going for it? 4v4 PVP is dogshit, with no depth or nuance, and the PVE is just as hollow as the first one so what am I missing here? Don't get me wrong, the game is beautiful and is optimized extremely well on PC - once it drops in price I'll definitely pick it up to pound through the pve stuff, but yet again, Bungie has set the bar so low that so many people are giving them a pass when the game could be great. Just like the first one. A lot of the people working on the game are very obviously talented, but the man at the top has dogshit vision, and has no business directing AAA games for major studios.