Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
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The checkpoint system has caused nothing but headaches I can't believe they kept it around tbh
 

Pyros

<Silver Donator>
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Well here the issue I don't think is the checkpoint(even though I guess spawning inside an area with a high density like this and a high rate of shrine helps), it's the fact relogging resets your 2mins cooldowns, so you can pop them every run. Apparently some people are like relogging to reset cooldowns and running pure cooldown builds in group so they pop everything, log off, relog, click the banner of whoever's in the middle of mobs, pop everything etc.

Regardless though doesn't really matter, they nerf shit, more shit gets found, who cares.
 

Mures

Blackwing Lair Raider
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Crypt farming has been around a looooong time. And the reason they nerfed mira is because it gave too much xp for such a short quest. You can still do mira runs if you find that fun, and it still gives decent xp. It just no longer gives you 3x xp of efficient farming.
 

Xevy

Log Wizard
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I'm not sure what the fuck their plan is with this game. They nerf legendary drops, but make them untradable. They nerf every exp boost people use eventually. So they want repetitive, RNG-based, solo gaming? I don't think that's the best approach...

Make paragon levels endless. Make leveling linear. Make legendaries either drop a ton or guarantee them somehow reasonably. Make shit tradable. Moar fun game, in my opinion.

The build and gear %damage stuff is a right step, but they're not even half-assing this game at this point. They're like quarter-assing it.
 

LadyVex_sl

shitlord
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Wizards are extremely survivable actually; paralysis, cold blooded and dominance work well together. Use two electric spells it frost or some of each and you will stunlock from beginning to end. I run ice armor with storm, electrocute with the extend, and then something like blizzard, meteor with lightning or a lightning hydra.

Paralysis procs all the damn time, even with your hydra. You should easily be able to solo t3; the only thing I had an issue with was a gravedigger pack that was fire chains, teleport, fast and poison, just because the base mob type has a knockup, and I don't run teleport. So they'd run to me, knockup, and raped my face. But since nv is gone you can swap to tp on those as necessary. I like running teleport just to speed my movement up, but with ice armor, electrocute and hydra I never need it as an escape. (Notable packs excluded)

Wizards are relatively op right now because of their stunlock, but if you don't use that yea, you might just get wrecked.

I think we were on Torment3 last night which was part of the problem I'm sure. I usually solo on 1 or 2 but certain stuff was destroying me in ways it never used to (like shadow clones were 1 shotting me but this was after we rolled it down to T1).
Also I am totally doing that crypt run with archon until it gets nerfed!
 

Zaphid

Trakanon Raider
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I don't really care about the dick measuring that all these farming runs lead to, sure Blizzard should probably balance stuff better, but as long as the whole game is perfectly playable without it, is it really that much of a problem ? If they add some MP oriented content for the bleeding edge where people will demand paragon 300 to join, then it's an issue, but as long as you can have fun doing anything and being rewarded for it, keep it in the game.
 

Amzin

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Wizards are extremely survivable actually; paralysis, cold blooded and dominance work well together. Use two electric spells it frost or some of each and you will stunlock from beginning to end. I run ice armor with storm, electrocute with the extend, and then something like blizzard, meteor with lightning or a lightning hydra.

Paralysis procs all the damn time, even with your hydra. You should easily be able to solo t3; the only thing I had an issue with was a gravedigger pack that was fire chains, teleport, fast and poison, just because the base mob type has a knockup, and I don't run teleport. So they'd run to me, knockup, and raped my face. But since nv is gone you can swap to tp on those as necessary. I like running teleport just to speed my movement up, but with ice armor, electrocute and hydra I never need it as an escape. (Notable packs excluded)

Wizards are relatively op right now because of their stunlock, but if you don't use that yea, you might just get wrecked.



Also I am totally doing that crypt run with archon until it gets nerfed!
The first new Wizard build I tried was fire-based. It was a bit goobery but the coefficient on the fire mage blades felt insane and healed me up pretty fast anytime things didn't melt before getting on me.
 

LadyVex_sl

shitlord
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The first new Wizard build I tried was fire-based. It was a bit goobery but the coefficient on the fire mage blades felt insane and healed me up pretty fast anytime things didn't melt before getting on me.
I haven't tried fire at all yet; by nature I prefer any game build to be more control based than front loading. (That's for anything, not just diablo.). It just happened to work out well this time around; though Drtyrm keeps getting all my cold increasing LEGENDARIES!

Might try it out for a change though. I always see something like that and try it and then go back to old builds. Frost 4 life, yo. (Fuck you Drtyrm for taking my stone of Jordan.)
 

Zaphid

Trakanon Raider
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I haven't tried fire at all yet; by nature I prefer any game build to be more control based than front loading. (That's for anything, not just diablo.). It just happened to work out well this time around; though Drtyrm keeps getting all my cold increasing LEGENDARIES!

Might try it out for a change though. I always see something like that and try it and then go back to old builds. Frost 4 life, yo. (Fuck you Drtyrm for taking my stone of Jordan.)
Arcane + Temporal Flux is actually stronger slow than cold, weirdly enough, you could cobble together some mix of hydra/orb/disintegrate with passives for AP and do well.

Or just go Frozen orb for the nostalgia and it also wrecks everything once you figure out the distance you need to be so you get max number of shards hitting alon with the explosion. Blizzard is among the weaker spells right now I'd say.
 

Mures

Blackwing Lair Raider
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Another thing to take into consideration with stupid 2 minute farm routes is they will not be efficient once RoS goes live because you won't get the new blood shards or w/e they are called.
 

LadyVex_sl

shitlord
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Arcane + Temporal Flux is actually stronger slow than cold, weirdly enough, you could cobble together some mix of hydra/orb/disintegrate with passives for AP and do well.

Or just go Frozen orb for the nostalgia and it also wrecks everything once you figure out the distance you need to be so you get max number of shards hitting alon with the explosion. Blizzard is among the weaker spells right now I'd say.
Blizzard is just to keep mobs in the hydra radius longer and for the 10% cold blooded bonus. I'm not a huge fan of it but it has good synergy with my build, especially my electrocute with extended range.

And yea, frozen orb is as broken as prenerf nether tentacles, minus healing. I enjoy it quite a bit but tend to use meteor if I need something other than blizzard.

Should also mention I use blizzard mostly to chain groups for extra exp; I can blizzard a few large groups, center a hydra and blast then to bits as they converge on me. I am the eye of the storm! (OMG so good at role play.)
 

Mures

Blackwing Lair Raider
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Good.
UPCOMING HOTFIXES]
The experience bonus for completing a quest the first time and the first time after hitting the "Reset Quests" button has been increased.*
The rewards for repeatedly completing the same quest (without utilizing the "Reset Quests" button) have been reduced.*
 

Sinzar

Trakanon Raider
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I watched the vid posted of the guy farming crypt over and over for exp. He was talking about exp per hour doing that, but holy shit if I played like that for 15 minutes I'd end up quitting shortly afterwards. What a dull way to play, he didn't even kill elites or loot anything, what's the point of playing diablo like that?

I'm annoyed at the upcoming hotfix nerf to repeating quests. While something like repeating mira over and over probably should not be profitable, I don't doubt they nerf quest exp to almost nothing. So starting in the middle of an act and knocking out some quests while clearing to the act boss will probably give almost no bonus.
 

Juvarisx

Florida
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Drop rates for Keys / Organs for the hellfire rings are lame now. Just went 0 for 10 on the act 2 warden
 

LadyVex_sl

shitlord
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I watched the vid posted of the guy farming crypt over and over for exp. He was talking about exp per hour doing that, but holy shit if I played like that for 15 minutes I'd end up quitting shortly afterwards. What a dull way to play, he didn't even kill elites or loot anything, what's the point of playing diablo like that?

I'm annoyed at the upcoming hotfix nerf to repeating quests. While something like repeating mira over and over probably should not be profitable, I don't doubt they nerf quest exp to almost nothing. So starting in the middle of an act and knocking out some quests while clearing to the act boss will probably give almost no bonus.
Well I think he did it to show you how fast it can go. I imagine you can easily give a few seconds to loot things, full clear, and take out the named.

Although you do have to relog for it, it's really no different than what we do now to farm. With ros we'll have adventure mode but for right now, a cave of densely packed mobs is preferable, at least for soloing.
 

Xevy

Log Wizard
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Most people at a certain gear level don't bother looting unless they see the legendary symbol on the minimap.
 

Falstaff

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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guys like Kongor have been doing cursed chest in some variation or another for over a week now. meaning yes, I'd kill myself too... but some of these guys must be racing to Paragon 1000 I guess.

LadyVex can you link your build?