Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls
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How would you feel as the leecher if there were 3 runners and only 1 leecher?
Thanks for the information. So if I'm the lowest Paragon <which I usually am> I just open the Rift and the other 3 <or 1?> clear it? Seems simple. What about the other 2?
I guess I'll read the RTFM and join the group. Seems the way to go. Very few coop groups and I'm not currently in a clan.
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No. Runner opens the first rift solo. Runner clears 400 enemies, summons guardian, posts into RIF community channel torment level and who opens. Runner accepts 3 people into the game. Runner+3 kills guardian. Person who matches criteria to reopen then reopens the rift after the rift guardian is dead. Everyone leaves except the Runner and the process repeats.
TLDR:
If you match the criteria, you reopen AFTER all 4 of you kill the rift guardian (and turn in the rift quest). You leave and then the runner repeats the "running".
Dis
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I am really confused with what you are saying. RIF is just that, however does the running, whether it be 1, 2, or 3 people announce that the RG is up, all said person has to do is log in and enjoy free shards, more than likely a soul, perhaps a leg. I do a lot of RIF with various party numbers & vice versa, and there is no shortage of people wanting to join or games being run by various party numbers. As long as it is advertise clearly with what the reqs are in joining the game, there is no leeching or whatever, it is exactly what it is:
Someone who does not want to run rifts, just get shards/souls/legs, someone who likes to run, and in return gets a free rift open. Seems like a pretty fair trade.
Then again, I could totally be misunderstanding what you are saying, and my post is completely pointless ;P
Ah so basically the runner gets a free rift. Two people get to leech, and the last guy or lowest paragon basically gets a cleared rift at cost.
Efficient, if not very equitable. How good is the system in practice?
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Dis
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Sort of. The rules are set by the runner:
Lowest paragon
Highest paragon
Last one in
Mid paragon
person who lives closest to Arkansas
It is a crap shoot if you are the one opening the rift or not. Rule# 1 though, always go into a rift expecting to open a new rift for the runner, regardless. I had a guy lag out trying to zone into the actual rift. He got unlucky, popped in and the RG was dead. Fortunately he was well aware of the RIF rules and opened it. Even though he got screwed out of loot (still got the xp/gold). 99% of folks got their shit together and play by the rules. Few bad apples (AKA true leechers) are in there lurking.
Generally 3 man rift teams are T5+ though. I generally see T2/3 groups have to constantly spam the "you open" stuff. If you get a free T5 RG I wouldn't mind coughing up the 5 frags.
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Because as the numbers of runners go up, they approach free rifts within their group anyway. At 3 runners per 1 leecher, if you assume running the rest of the rift is worthwhile, I think the leecher is getting a raw deal for his 5 frags and the runners are abusing the system.
Dis
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The other good thing about the channel, sometimes you will see a guy advertising 3 spots for 5 free cache openings. Generally that is me. Done that more than a few times when no clan mates are on.
Edit: I would also clarify that more people bitch about not having enough runners in channel as opposed to never hearing about having too many runners.
That is the beauty of the system, is completely voluntary to join. Leechers (which sounds harsh) or whatever know what they are getting into, they dont join a game going surprise you are the one opening the rift because there are 3 here already. It is announced clearly in chat. No shortage of people wanting to, or actually joining those games.
Edit: I would also clarify that more people bitch about not having enough runners in channel as opposed to never hearing about having too many runners.
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If the difference between torments was a bit more pronounced, I would agree with you.
Crone
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I would feel fine. Was happening last night. 1 person was advertising every few minutes, 1 spot available, that person pays, for a T3 rift. Seeing as he advertised it over and over, I can't imagine it wasn't getting filled up. Still offering a free rift guardian kill to people, rather than letting it go wasted.
If that was all that was available, I can see the frustration of being slow, and potentially never getting a rift, but I feel there are enough runners looking for free rifts, that the leechers are in just fine shape.
Neki
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Kinda bugs me that more often than not, it's 'lowest paragon' to open as a condition and I am more than likely that one person
When I am the runner, my condition is 'I choose who to open' and I often choose the person with the most retarded name to open next rift
When I am the runner, my condition is 'I choose who to open' and I often choose the person with the most retarded name to open next rift
Nirgon
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Game's netcode is so solid I can barely rubber band ever vaulting around infinitely.
How's this 10 years too late?
I know Blizzard games get watered down in the name of (attempted) balance to appease the "that's not fair crowd".. but apparently that sells millions of boxes.
I do wonder which product makes more money... Dom Perignon or McDonald's food (shouldn't be hard to guess here).
How's this 10 years too late?
I know Blizzard games get watered down in the name of (attempted) balance to appease the "that's not fair crowd".. but apparently that sells millions of boxes.
I do wonder which product makes more money... Dom Perignon or McDonald's food (shouldn't be hard to guess here).
Lost Virtue
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Mures
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Personally I wouldn't give a shit so long as they are advertising it like that "tx rg, 1 spot, req inv, you open". If it was something like blah, blah, blah, last one in opens and I join and there are 3 people in a clan together then I would be mildly annoyed.