Doom: Eternal

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yeeeeeee, reviews are coming in - lots of gameplay too

everyone is jerking this game off and it's going to be so hype

 
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yeeeeeee, reviews are coming in - lots of gameplay too

everyone is jerking this game off and it's going to be so hype


I am really fucking suspect. "this game is so much better then doom 2016. it adds so much more lore and world building. a paradigm shift that all future fps will be shaped after. It adds a homebase, upgradable home, level/mission select from home, cut scenes."
im sorry, isn't that the kind of horseshit being crammed into FPS that doom 2016 was a revolt from? I mean, granted I was super suspect about the canned animation kills in the doom2016 trailers. and was pleasantly surprised how well that came out.

Incidentally, I went back and played SPace marine recently, and it in 2011 had a precurser to the doom melee kills. it was AWFUL in that. It lacked the forward momentum, and did not make you invulnerable during the kills. so you would often die or lose as much life doing a melee kill, that you would get back in life from the kill.
 
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Yeahhh....

Why is there a homebase and missions?
 
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I am really fucking suspect. "this game is so much better then doom 2016. a paradigm shift that all future fps will be shaped after. It adds a homebase, upgradable home, level/mission select from home, cut scenes."
im sorry, isn't that the kind of horseshit being cramming to FPS that doom 2016 was a revolt from?
My thoughts exactly. The reason 2016 was so good, because it didn't do all that "modern era" bullshit. The joy was in the simplicity of being dropped into a linear mission and splattering demons the size of dump truck across your screen. It was fast, it was fluid, and heart pounding.

An upgradeable home base? Sounds like fgt shit to me.
 
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That podcast a few pages ago, he mentioned you can more or less skip all the lore and story shit and just do gameplay only.

Doesn't seem like a problem to me to add extra content for people that enjoy that. It's the exact same shit Dark Souls does.
 

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at least he admits the platforming has no place in doom, yet still raves about it... which reminder, theres platflorming in this too.
 
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This is just classic bullshit though for real. Doom 2016 is a resounding success despite eschewing from nearly all current FPS game design philosophies. Shocking the suits upstairs at Bethesda.

So what do those faggots want to do? Fill the game with actual Lore rather than the self-aware genius lore of Doom 2016. Add a homebase and customizing your house with cutesy shit. Add more characters to interact with and try to give Doom Guy some deep story. Hide bonus levels behind paywalls, hide snapmap behind paywalls and on and on it goes. Just...

Why?
 
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Get ready to have Bethesda go MTX apeshit. Also, do not believe any of this pre-release garbage. Everyone here knows better though so I do not have to remind anyone.

This game will be absolute shit because Bethesda is involved in delaying the game to turn it into games as a service.

BOYCOTT BETHESDA, it's the only way these idiots will learn.
 
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Just a reminder that Utnayan lost a bet with Doom 2016 :smuggly:
 
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I have no doubts that it will be full of Doom 2016 goodness. I'm still really looking forward to it. It's just really transparent how far they've shifted their game design to fit in MTX/paywall content.

When all I want to do is blast demons and listen to metal.
 
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Utnayan

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yeeeeeee, reviews are coming in - lots of gameplay too

everyone is jerking this game off and it's going to be so hype



Oh Jesus gmanlives? One of the biggest shills in the history of Youtube. I didn't even see that he was attached to this POS "Preview" (Sponsored by Bethesda.)
 

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That guy sounds like a shill. In all honesty its best to just listen to channels where you know you and the reviewer share similar gaming tastes.

Arekkz is better to me in this context.

 
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Oh Jesus gmanlives? One of the biggest shills in the history of Youtube. I didn't even see that he was attached to this POS "Preview" (Sponsored by Bethesda.)

Was just the first one in my youtube feed I watched my dude.

Have a Digital Foundry one which is more technical anyways. But I'm sure you'll have something to complain about with their video too.

 
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Utnayan

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Utnayan Utnayan whats your metacritic prediction!!

Based on MTX bullshit Bethesda is going to throw in this and the culling of the map editor to repackage and sell and tie that into their Creation bullshit and charge for maps on top of that, I'd say a solid 8.0 for gameplay, driven down to about 2-3 because of Bethesda's heavy handed involvement.

Now, the game itself without Bethesda's involvement would have been fine. It's what they are going to cut and repackage in the MTX system outside of cosmetics that will REALLY piss people off. Which I think people also need to remember, ID is NO MORE. They are a fully owned Zenimax Media sub. Of which Bethesda Softworks controls the publishing rights and why this thing was delayed. They saw a way to make money off the map editor.
 

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Was just the first one in my youtube feed I watched my dude.

Have a Digital Foundry one which is more technical anyways. But I'm sure you'll have something to complain about with their video too.



This is fine because they are talking about the technical aspects not "OH MY GOD BEST GAME EVER" because no one can say that because the MTX system isn't in the preview builds and I would guess not even in the review code these shady motherfuckers will send out.
 

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yeeeeeee, reviews are coming in - lots of gameplay too

everyone is jerking this game off and it's going to be so hype


This guy brought up the one aspect of the game which disappointed me when I first saw it; the platforming. It IS out of place in Eternal, but it felt alright in 2016 because of how the areas were laid out (as the guy mentions), it kinda cheapens the game (compared to 2016).
 

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Based on MTX bullshit Bethesda is going to throw in this and the culling of the map editor to repackage and sell and tie that into their Creation bullshit and charge for maps on top of that, I'd say a solid 8.0 for gameplay, driven down to about 2-3 because of Bethesda's heavy handed involvement.

I don't know where you got any of this from at all, they said snapmap isn't making a return. It's not even running on the same engine, let alone the fact that snapmap ran off of the multiplayer version of Doom which was a completely seperate game with a completely seperate dev team (saber). Which is why it felt so fucking wonky. There was an interview when the game was first announced where they said modding is probable in the future with the way they built id tech 7, especially with megatextures being gone, but it likely won't be anytime near launch.

Depending on the quality of the additions to the campaign, I'm fine with paying 5$ for more official basically expansion content just like I was for the Witcher, or Dark Souls. I know Bethesda are full of cucks but they mostly only stick to ruining their own games.

They've completely said several times snapmap isn't in the game, or even in the engine, which I'm bummed about - but you're just making shit up saying they're going to add it later for muh money.
 
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I don't know where you got any of this from at all

He has a serious hate boner for Doom. Just went back and read the beginning of the 2016 thread and he was Brando in the politics thread level wrong about nearly everything.
 
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