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Zaphid

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New huskar is fucking retarded... I don't know what to do if he picks last and your team sucks vs it.

(or you're not playing ap)
Heaven's Halberd, nobody gets bkb on him, or any pure damage, Bane especially shits all over him. If you are in a pinch, silences also work pretty well and you can actually use ghost scepter with them without getting burned to death. If the other team is extra gay and picks someone like Dazzle with him, then it gets complicated. Don't be afraid to throw everything you have at him when he's low, odds are you won't be able to save it for later if he survives.
 

Pyros

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Blade Mail works well until he gets a BKB. It reflects pure dmg. Mostly the issue is if you can't counterpick him due to last pick, you're gonna get fucked in the ass if he's not retarded in his item choices. People like to rush that agh but tbh a BKB will do a lot more against certain setups, because while you don't give a fuck about magic dmg, disables and pure dmg are a real problem.
 

ohmgee_sl

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So I'm confused blade mail reflects damage as pure and is supposed to be reduced by resists before it returns it yet it just gibs Huskar. Also is blood seekers ults initial damage magic or pure since it gets amplified by ghost scepter
 

Delly

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So I'm confused blade mail reflects damage as pure and is supposed to be reduced by resists before it returns it yet it just gibs Huskar. Also is blood seekers ults initial damage magic or pure since it gets amplified by ghost scepter
I don't think pure damage is reduced by Huskar.

Wiki -
Pure damage is a form of magical damage that is unreduced by magic resistance or magic amplification. It interacts normally with abilities that reduce all incoming damage, such as Dispersion and Bristleback. Because it is magical, it also ignores all armor or forms of damage block. It does not affect units under magic immunity and does normal damage against ethereal units.
So Huskar should get all the damage coming to him unless he goes magic immune.
 

Pyros

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Pure damage by definition is not affected by magic resist, otherwise it'd be magic damage. Blood Seeker dmg is health loss, it's even more powerful than pure because it basically cannot be stopped by anything, including magic immunity. Used to be pure until last patch, it's not the strongest spell in the game in terms of properties, since it cannot be removed nor ignored, which is a nice buff.

Read this article on the wiki, not sure if it's up to date or accurate as it's still a wiki but it should help understand damage types:
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Damage_types
 

Pyros

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The tip on the side about dmg being reduced means damage reflected is calculated after reductions. Say you cast a spell for 100dmg. It won't reflect 100dmg, it will reflect 75dmg, which is what you take because of the innate 25% magic resist. Basically it returns what you take, not what the enemy does. The enemy will take 100% of what is returned though regardless of his resist, so in this case 75. If it was affected by magic resist he'd take 56.25dmg.
 

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Fuck the asshole who came up with this mute system. Have retards on my team screaming at me to buy wards while they are out of stock. Seriously hope whoever implemented this automated mute system gets cancer. Makes the damn game impossible to play.
 

Jozu

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I find Medusa to be terrible. The only way she is even remotely useful is if she gets hella farm.Even then she is so goddamned soft so you have to try and increase your mana pool on top of trying to get items to increase her dmg. Her only power play is obviously her ult, but if people arent looking at you it doesnt do much besides give you an escape or set-up team fights.

Im sure someone will say "BUT SHE IS ANNOYING IF SHE GETS FED!" Timbersaw is annoying if he gets fed too. Im pretty sure everyone is.
 

Pyros

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Well she's MORE annoying, but yeah don't like the hero. New ult is pretty solid though, might see some play whenever she makes it to -cm, maybe, probably not. Thing is she's still more or less worthless until she has many items. The thing is there's so many viable carries nowadays, why pick her. Hell if you want a lategame, there's still PL or Spectre which will still tend to outcarry her even in super lategame anyway, and they're both surprisingly a fuckton more useful early on if you build them correctly(basically if you don't rush radiance and pick desolate on spectre).
 

TecKnoe

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smg formerly fnatic.na vs pain[br] gaming pretty wild game with a funny comeback, american dota league.

218167985 = match id
 

Jozu

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Pyros what do you think about Necrolyte?

His auto attack damage seems pretty decent, and they reccomend you get treads which makes his dd even more useful. His pulse and aura is great at keeping people needing to regen and his sycthe is kind of fucking awesome if you use it at critical moments. His problem is squishy like a lot of INT heroes but if you get wards and are aware at all times you can avoid ganks and stay in lane.
 

Nutron_sl

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he's a great pub stomper. His attack animation is garbage making it hard to get those last hits, but once youre lvl 3-4 you start being able to harass anyone outta lane (mid especially where you can basicaly go hug the other hero and spam heal/attack him).

If you can snowball quickly into a radiance pre 20 min, he is an absolute wrecking ball. Otherwise in a more normal setup, hes basicaly just a heal bitch thats boring to play with an ult that steals a kill from a carry here and there.
 

Zaphid

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Radiance ? Mek is infinitely better, maybe even pipe on top of it. Sure, if you have freefarm and somehow find yourself with 3k in your pocket, then you can probably farm up the relic, but mek is much more versatile, gives you another heal, armor and makes your team almost unkillable, for extra lulz get chen on your team.
 

Pyros

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My big issue with necrolyte, in a competitive point of view, is you need a solo lane, and he's not an exceptional solo. He's ok kinda but the current solo heroes tend to crush the fuck out of him in lane. You might be able to dual lane him say mid with Lich(undead dual lane yo) to compensate. Assuming you lane well and you farm decently, he's a great fucking hero, but that's a major issue that tends to keep a lot of heroes from the competitive pool, if they can't be laned properly. As for items, definitely go for tanky shit. Radiance, while a common pubstomp pick on him, I find is awful. If you have shit tons of money, rush a hex. But mostly get cheap tanky items, I like mek+drums+phase/treads(matter of choice, both are very valid choices, hell arcane works too) into a sheep/shiva. Necro's goal is to stand in the middle of the enemy team spamming heals+nukes and not dying, if you die your contribution is extremely reduced. Another much better pubstomp build is bloodstone+boots of travel, you can farm a ton with BoT by aoeing the waves and bloodstone will give you the regen to deathpulse almost non stop as well as a lot of health and mana. Do the usual bloodstone build where you get arcane first, then buy the rest of the bloodstone, disassemble arcane into bloodstone then buy BoT.

Anyway he's a cool pick but I don't find him reliable enough to be worth a competitive pick other than pocket strats. The only way I see him winning lanes is if the drafter reads the lanes well and see there's no agressive trilane to contest(so he puts like 2 supports that can jungle/pull and let necro freefarm vs a solo lane like darkseer which is doable if you pool the necro so he has good int) or if you put him dual mid. In standard trilanes he tends to not get enough xp and can't really last hit for shit and in a 1vs1 he'll die to darkseer, sylla, bat etc. Especially sylla will crush the fuck out of him super hard once 5, one entangle and you're basically dead as fuck. If you lose your lane with necro, while he's an ok flash farmer, he still requires a lot of levels and gold to be remotely efficient. If he has to switch to a "support" role, he's pretty fucking awful, his ulti isn't good until 11 and really good at 16, his heal puts him into shitty positions if he can't take the heat and that's all he does. In pubs whatever works anyway.

Edit: Oh also forgot, Necro is one of the hardest lategame carry in the game. He's a fucking beast with full items, very very tanky, can drop the enemy carry from like 60% hp regardless of his items(other than bkb but with 4secs bkb now...), you definitely don't want to go super late vs a necro.