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Zaphid

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Secret is playing like 10s behind in their ganks and smokes :-/

Black is real pain to listen to. Some germans have cool accents, like Khaldor, Take or TLO, but Black souds like he's choking on a sausage while talking.
 

cyrusreij

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Secret is playing like 10s behind in their ganks and smokes :-/

Black is real pain to listen to. Some germans have cool accents, like Khaldor, Take or TLO, but Black souds like he's choking on a sausage while talking.
Well.... he was for years, then he gave up food and has a giant head on a tiny body.
 

Dandain

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Perfect World getting exposed as ultra confirmed bads, I like all these attempted innovations, in the broadcasts, size/position/timing/duration of use need some tweaks.

At least Team Secret gets to suck on the teat of Turkish oil money and Chinese cam girls.
 

Zaphid

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G2 looks more promising for Secret.

Godz savage: "We might see a different side of Secret, one that's ahead."
 

Luthair

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Interesting part about DC doing well at the majors is that given they haven't been completely stomping other NA teams suggests that probably a couple of those teams are major/TI worthy.
 

Zaphid

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It's good, but almost too fancy. I'm not sure who is observing, but there have been a few missed kills in the Secret games that shouldn't happen, maybe all of those new features take some getting used to. The tweets during the games are worthless and distracting, save that for breaks and no draft times is pretty big oversight, which they will hopefully fix.

I'm wondering what they have saved up for the main event.
 

Intrinsic

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During the first game Tobi said he was scared about missing first blood so it sounds like for this round there is no dedicated obsv. Production is running the new features though and they tweaked things throughout last night. They dropped the sound effects after the very first game and zoomed out the courier cam a bit. In one of the PGL behind the scenes videos they said their intent is to help both the viewers and the obsv so I think they'll continue to use the feedback and adjust. There's a fine line between it being distracting / busy and adding useful info.

Some of the lower third info during the draft needs a rework. Like when they were showing a hero pick rate vs win rate and you have two bat graphs against each other that are the same height but one is 45% and the other is 80% which doesn't match with other bar graphs for other players. That was weird. The post game graphs showing the gold / kda / other info needs a little more contrast in the player colors on the legend. They were using a tiny strip of color and the blues just all looked the same to me. Could have been my monitor though. And then like Zaphid said, they should show the pick time and reserve time some how. At first I thinking about trying to include the arrows for order, but it is somewhat obvious with the box lighting up. But there still should be a timer for us to see.

Main event hopefully is badass. Not sure how you beat the Epicenter opening with the big ass Roshan because that was slick.
 

Luthair

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I recall Weppas & Skrff on the list of talent, but four simultaneous games and breaks....

The warped/boomerang stats view is also very confusing. The colours in the stream are off also, I think the term is over saturated.
 

Gravel

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The rune camera is good for the first 5-10 minutes.

Courier cam is worthless as you can see it on the minimap, and it's not like seeing where it's going is useful.

The 3 way split between lanes at the laning stage was kind of cool, but didn't seem to get used much.
 

Dandain

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Personally, I think the cams have value for spectators who aren't sitting on top of the client at their PC, I pay way less attention to the minimap when I stream on my TV than when I'm sitting at my PC. Also for casuals that don't know about the rest of the information or have the skill to decipher the minimap mid game (which is plenty of the spectating audience) some of the information is value. I certainly agree that some of the uses were not as smooth or as relevant many of the times they'd show things, but I think you could say the same thing about a lot of the spectating tools. Innovation in how information is displayed for spectators is good, just like the yellow first down line/other shit sometimes projected onto football fields. Not everything lasts, like that puck with a trail technology they tried in hockey in the 90's. They gotta try shit to figure how it works, and to work it better in live games.
 

Genjiro

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The 3 way cam is pretty nice where you can watch all 3 lanes and see enough still to tell whats happening in each one. Courier is very annoying since we can see it already, the only thing which would be nice is a small box showing what items are in it and that would be enough. Ffs though, the tweets are very fucking annoying just remove that shit already.
 

Luthair

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The colour seems even worse in todays broadcast. Seems like they listened to complaints and aren't doing courier cam.
 

Luthair

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I was scratching my head when the panelists preferred the Liquid draft, too much HP on Alliance and DS sucks.

The only reason I can come up with that people are picking DS is that he can farm a mek quickly. I'd rather see Bristleback go mek MVP style...
 

Gravel

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That and wall is basically the anti-farmed carry. In fact, two of the big fights had huge walls; the one where Rubick stole it, and the one that DS dropped near Rosh that basically started the end of the game.
 

Luthair

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That and wall is basically the anti-farmed carry. In fact, two of the big fights had huge walls; the one where Rubick stole it, and the one that DS dropped near Rosh that basically started the end of the game.
I didn't see a wall by the DS that did anything that game, the Rubick stolen wall killed the Spectre though since he was alone.
 

Intrinsic

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I may, or may not, have been too drunk last night and missed the games. Uhh... one or the other. Maybe.