DOTA 2

Caal

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Lol, so you decide to gank Demon's lane and he doesn't have his ultimate? What in the fuck is going on.
 

Sutekh

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Man when TL plays well they look amazing but when they play poorly they look like the worst in the world.
 

Sutekh

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Not even a demon choke, their whole team just played like dogshit. Especially the drafting in this game is really bad, the support WK is literally useless.
 

Genjiro

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I agree their drafts sucked, but Demon was being old Demon today, getting wards stolen because hes outside the base, not getting his ult, just retarded all around play from him. Talk about going out with a whimper.
 

Sutekh

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Holy fuck that was a Bulba draft, my god that was just pure dogshit.

I agree their drafts sucked, but Demon was being old Demon today, getting wards stolen because hes outside the base, not getting his ult, just retarded all around play from him. Talk about going out with a whimper.
Yes and TC dying top solo against Mirana wasn't bad, or Qojqva going the wrong item choice, or the support WK being 110% useless, or the lack of roaming from the Enigma/WK, or the bad idea to fight at the rosh pit etc. I'm not sure why everyone has a hard-on for blaming demon, Veno was a pathetically bad pick. They needed to secure farm for TC, if Viper and get an early mek and a good start he's pretty much fucking immortal. Every single game TL lost to LGD it was because LGD's roaming support duo destroyed them and TL were extremely scared of it this game causing them to play even worse and STILL get picked off.
 

Genjiro

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Is Treant Protector as strong as he looked in those two games?
He is with the way LGD drafted. The drafted aggressive pushing heroes where TP fills 2 roles of denying the other team early gold by keeping his tier 1s alive which helps them push in early and win. The heals of course let you dive and push hard early as well. He's still a really good hero, especially when people like ppd play him.

Keep in mind in g2, the stars aligned too. Treant Protector with Leech Seed + smoke + a haste rune is probably the scariest shit you can see and is like 99.99999% chance of first blood. That pretty much raped qoqvya for that game.
 

Pyros

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Seen a bunch of pros do that, technically you don't have enough mana to use it at 6 with gale and a decent amount of wards if you don't go arcane. A lot of the sidelane/farming venos seem to go treads instead and just skip ult, which imo is a retarded build. You should go for arcane and ult asap, lvl 6 ult is brutal as hell especially if you got xp advantage on supports but by 9 a lot of supports will be high enough they won't mind it as much until 11. You don't gain that much from skilling something else at 6 either. That said it's not a demon thing, seen it several times it seems to be the accepted build, but everytime it seems completely shit if they ever get into a fight before 9(and you always do). Even at 6 you can solo kill anyone you gale if you have your ulti. Solo killing someone will probably give you a level, meaning it pays for itself if you use it right away to get a kill on a support or whatever, and Arcane boots are obviously useful for everyone even if not totally useful for you but eventually you'll replace boots by travel regardless and treads don't do shit unless you build full carry which most venos don't even if they get farm priority, they go like agh veil bkb blink or whatever and treads don't help you for shit with that setup since you're not gonna right click anyone.

LGD picked smart and played their lineup well, Liquid played meh. Not really a Demon loss, just the whole team did poor stuff.
 

Sutekh

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If you've got a coordinated team Treant can be one of the best team fighting supports in the game, I'd probably say THE best.