Elden Ring - From Software + George RR Martin

Rajaah said:

This game is like the ultimate evolution of Zelda 1 and Dragon Warrior 1. Morrowind and Fallout 3 were big steps along the way, Elden Ring is the final form (maybe).

Those two NES games had like zero structure, and it was amazing for a kid with an imagination. You were only limited by whether or not you could handle the enemies in a given area since you could go anywhere from the start. Different players would have different experiences.

Unfortunately the sequels to both games made things quite a bit more linear, but for those very first games, you could go anywhere from the very beginning and it was great.

Click to expand...

This game has locked out areas too. I got to the front door of the capitol city and there was a door that said I needed to have two runes to progress. So I went and killed Radahn. Then I ran through the city toward the snow mountain area and there is an actual invisible wall, at the top of the hill, saying I must kill the main boss in the city.

...and that's where I quit, and have had zero motivation to play since.

Maybe it's too JRPG like for my tastes, but I don't care for the lore or the story, and the combat is whatever; so exploration of systems is all I had.

Pemulis said:

I’m definitely overleveled for the Siofra river well area but still getting brutalized by the infinite range, insane homing arrows from the ancestral Minotaur dudes. I’m getting flashbacks of shrine of amana, but it’s even worse

Click to expand...

yea that zone became a move from cover to cover for me as i fought to the other lift. or chased torches.

Utnayan said:

Ok killed fire giant - advice time.

Looks like a "soft point of no return" - is this the time where I go and explore everything before continuing? I am around level 78 or so.

Or, continue and I can still access the open world anyway - heard some things happen but also do not want to spoil it.

I still have not killed Radahn - and LOTS Of other POI's, Wells, etc - that I have left to explore and do stuff in - only unlocked 2-3 bells max so I know there are tons more of those out there.

Click to expand...

If you haven’t killed Radahn you missing like half the game still. Yea go back.

Soygen said:

So after beating the big mounted Knight in Caria Manor, I made my way to the area behind the manor and fought some glint dragon. At some point during the fight, the dragon disappeared(flew off?). Is that supposed to happen?

Click to expand...

Yes, you fight it elsewhere.

Went back to my main account after learning some stuff about the endings. Looks like I got some more to do!

do you accomplish one ending per character? or can you -redo the end sequence to see them all?

Is 70 too low for non-pro for the Nokron area? The standard enemies havent been too bad but it seems like there's a ton of mini boss encounters, went there immediately after killing Radahn and havent been north of the academy yet.

Springbok said:

The bosses might be kinda of tough but doable - can't recall my level but felt overlevelled for everything until one boss in particular there

Click to expand...

Thanks, I may explore elsewhere first but that whole area is beautiful, wanted to keep going with Ranni the Witch's quest but I'm assuming heading North won't ruin it for me right? I can always come back later.

I don't want to be over leveled necessarily but it would be nice to be about on par. Those gargoyles handed me my ass pretty quickly.

I recommend this just to understand stats, but good shit for PvP related things.

Yaamean said:

Is 70 too low for non-pro for the Nokron area? The standard enemies havent been too bad but it seems like there's a ton of mini boss encounters, went there immediately after killing Radahn and havent been north of the academy yet.

Click to expand...

Yea probably do academy first then come back. I did actual Nokron itself after all of Caelid/Liurna once I had completed both the big dungeons there.

The sophria river place itself you can do way earlier than that if you want, but the Nokrok city propery is definitely closer to the 90-100 range.

ronne said:

Yea probably do academy first then come back. I did actual Nokron itself after all of Caelid/Liurna once I had completed both the big dungeons there.

The sophria river place itself you can do way earlier than that if you want, but the Nokrok city propery is definitely closer to the 90-100 range.

Click to expand...

Academy is done so is the Manor, I actually did both of those before Redmane castle. (Assuming you meant Raya Luca Academy or whatever?)

Think Ill explore Caelid more and then head north from the Academy since there appears to be a ton of areas up there I haven't explored yet.

Just cause it seems so common to ask, a pretty rough outline of general progression so you're the "right" level in most places:

Do all of Limgrave proper, or as much as you want to explore in the open world. This includes going south across the bridge to the land down there. Once you've had your fill of Limgrave head in to Stormveil, the sweet spot for the big bosses in there is level 35-40 or so, where they will be difficult but not ball crushing. This early on don't be afraid to skip or run away from things that seem like they are too much, as you're relatively weak early on and your tools to deal with things are limited. The gigachad bears for example just don't even bother lol.

Next is Liurnia up north. You can kinda just rampage around up here where ever you want, but keep in mind it gets a fair bit harder in the very northern parts and specifically the big Cariad manor is probably best saved until after the academy is done. Academy you probably want to go tackle at level 50-60 give or take. Once academy is done you should be good to clear out any remaining field stuff you want where ever in Liurna, and run through Cariad manor as well.

At this point I went down in to the Sofria river area and did everything I could down there. This is entirely optional as far as I can tell, at least the initial parts of it that you access from the well in Limgrave.

Level 70 or so I finally went to Caelid and starting clearing out field stuff there. Caelid scales pretty steeply in the very northern and eastern portions (dragons out in the field might be pretty hard until you're level 80-90), but it's not bad if you stick to the center/south areas. I found Radahn at I think level 80, give or take a couple levels.

At this point you can kind of do whatever you want to. You're high enough level that you have obtained most of the power you're going to obtain and will do enough damage to fight almost any bosses you want to and find success. I went and did all of Nokron and Deeproot at this point before going to the capital or taking the lift up to Atlus, but you could do this in whatever order and have it feel mostly the same. Only thing I would really recommend is going and finishing up Nokron and the rest of the underground areas like lake of rot etc before you do the big story bit where you burn the Erdtree.

This "soft cap" for fire spells is having 80 int and faith? Am I reading that right?

How do split scaling things work against a soft cap?

If it's 80 dex allegedly for the final soft cap for a pure Dex wep, is it 40/40 or an str/Dex wep or a full 80str/Dex?

Don't have this sorc alt up high enough to fully test.