Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

Gravel

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Seananigans said:
Scaling is horseshit design, but if you're going to use it at least make it bounded scaling. Ex: if you have an enemy that has a typical level equivalent of 10, maybe it scales up to 20 max, and in proportion to player leveling with a ratio below 1:1. Like for every 5 player levels beyond 10 it gains 1 level, up to 20 max.

RPG type games are all about a feeling of power progression. Most scaling systems completely neuter it, if not outright invert it at times. If you can't revisit the goblin town you had trouble with at level 5 when you're level 80 and completely obliterate it within 2.3 seconds, then what the fuck are we even doing?
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Pretty sure this is why I never got into Oblivion outside of screwing around a bit.

It actively punishes you for playing the game like an RPG. If I have to change the way I play to gimp myself so the game doesn't get fucky, that's not fun.
 
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Gravel said:
Pretty sure this is why I never got into Oblivion outside of screwing around a bit.

It actively punishes you for playing the game like an RPG. If I have to change the way I play to gimp myself so the game doesn't get fucky, that's not fun.
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This was one of the ways that I felt Skyrim was somewhat of an improvement; the higher up in the mountains/further away from roads in the overworld that you got, the harder the enemies usually became. Granted, the Draugr and dragons still scaled, but you still occasionally saw level 5 mooks of both varieties even if you were at level 50.
 
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Chanur

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Zaide said:
Do you have a “ or ‘ in your name? It uses your character name in the save file name but Microsoft won’t let you use those characters in a file name so it just says fuck off.

If so, note that quick save does not use your characters name in the save file name.
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Good suggestion. Turns out it seemed to be her shader cache. Once she dumped that it seems to be fine.
 
Zaide

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Having a ton of fun so far. I purposely made a janky build using mostly hand to hand, marksmanship, and a touch of destruction. Balancing my progress through the four big factions while doing various city quests and exploring the occasional ruin.

I got that castle up in the northwest and fully upgraded it which was nice.

I used mods to undo the dumbass enemy scaling.

My biggest takeaway from this is that I need to go replay Morrowind. I remember that game having tons of factions and a lot of them intersected and fought eachother.
 
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Koushirou

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What is the go-to mod for taking the enemy scaling out? I remember that being one of the biggest complaints about Oblivion back in the day and it did always sound retarded.
 
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