You guys think Araysar hates all successful DJs because he himself never became famous for his DJ skills?
Electronic Dance Music
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Can't tell you, this isn't something that people openly talk about. Even if I didnt mention the name, it would be rather obvious who it is.
It's not really anything new, most of major DJs who can afford it, do this. Between doing 100 shows a year and a weekly radio shiow, they don't have time to sit around and dick in ableton or logic. Their time is predominantly spent running their business empire. All they need to do is release a paint-by-numbers trance record once in a while to keep the lowest common denominator raving for more. Sasha with Charlie May for example, that one is commonly known. The others are much more secretive about it. If they weren't, you faggots wouldnt be sitting here in 2013 and posting about how much effort Armin has put into his new track, even though he hasn't written an original production from scratch in almost a decade.
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Benno De Goeij produces a lot of Armin's music since his Imagine album and their first track together was "The Word is Watching"(which was 2007 not 2005), and Armin's Gaia alias is a combination of their work. Benno is half of Rank1.
Armin still produces stuff and works with Benno on pretty much everything, he's just not sitting in a sound room playing with synths, but hardly anyone does these days. Benno creates sounds and Armin puts them together. It's not like Armin just puts his name over Benno's work either, it's pretty common knowledge that the two work together on everything. There are like 10 producers who pretty much create everything and then people buy them and add their own little twists and sounds, then put it all together how they want it. Basically the entire music industry is that way, so whatever, it is what it is.
I started listening to ASOT more regularly, and lately trying to pay attention to the transitions to glean a few tips. I started making my 2nd mix just for fun and I think it sounds great as I'm doing it, then I go back and listen and it sounds like dog shit. I'm pretty clueless, but it's fun and I'd like to get better at it, so I'm looking for any basic level tips that anyone could offer.
I think I've gathered a few general principles of mixing songs, but correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like highs mix the easiest, so generally they come in first, and then mids. The lows seem to either gradually come in after the mids, on a quick swap somewhere in the middle, or toward the end after a big climax. I'm clueless on what to do with the first track, to fade it out and in what order, or do something else?
These are complete guesses based on what I hear, but I could be completely off. Can anyone offer any tips? I also get frustrated when I think I find a perfect point to begin fading in, then there is some aspect of the incoming track, a vocal portion or rapid volume change or something else, that turns a smooth transition into something awkward.
I think I've gathered a few general principles of mixing songs, but correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like highs mix the easiest, so generally they come in first, and then mids. The lows seem to either gradually come in after the mids, on a quick swap somewhere in the middle, or toward the end after a big climax. I'm clueless on what to do with the first track, to fade it out and in what order, or do something else?
These are complete guesses based on what I hear, but I could be completely off. Can anyone offer any tips? I also get frustrated when I think I find a perfect point to begin fading in, then there is some aspect of the incoming track, a vocal portion or rapid volume change or something else, that turns a smooth transition into something awkward.
Loser Araysar
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1. Mix tracks with similar keys
2. Mix tracks together using the volume levels, not the crossfader. No one uses the crossfader except scratching DJs
3. Focus on mixing basslines first, dont worry about mids and highs, those take care of themselves more or less. If you're getting "sneakers in a dryer" sound, i.e. gallopping basslines, i.e. trainwrecking, then drop out the basslines but keep the mids and highs, otherwise it will sound weird if you blend in mids/highs, blend out and then blend them back in. So drop out the basslines, then retry blending them. You'll have a much harder time though since you'll be much more pressed for time
The biggest thing about mixing is making sure your tracks have similar keys, i didnt realize this until much later and would keep trying to force a track into another just because i thought it sounded good, with little regard to the mixability of both tracks. Eventually i just started writing the key with a marker on the vinyl sleeves or on the CDs, helped my mixing a lot
2. Mix tracks together using the volume levels, not the crossfader. No one uses the crossfader except scratching DJs
3. Focus on mixing basslines first, dont worry about mids and highs, those take care of themselves more or less. If you're getting "sneakers in a dryer" sound, i.e. gallopping basslines, i.e. trainwrecking, then drop out the basslines but keep the mids and highs, otherwise it will sound weird if you blend in mids/highs, blend out and then blend them back in. So drop out the basslines, then retry blending them. You'll have a much harder time though since you'll be much more pressed for time
The biggest thing about mixing is making sure your tracks have similar keys, i didnt realize this until much later and would keep trying to force a track into another just because i thought it sounded good, with little regard to the mixability of both tracks. Eventually i just started writing the key with a marker on the vinyl sleeves or on the CDs, helped my mixing a lot
Old, but I just discovered it so fuck you
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eargasm #2
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So Monday is a Bank Holiday here in the UK.
Sunday evening for me will be starting with Major Lazer, a Mixmag party which is being streamed onlinehttp://www.mixmag.net/words/competit...ondon-location
Followed by
Sunday evening for me will be starting with Major Lazer, a Mixmag party which is being streamed onlinehttp://www.mixmag.net/words/competit...ondon-location
Followed by
Alright thanks for the tips. My musical knowledge is like 0 so identifying different keys is all but impossible for me. I have noticed some tracks sound like they'd mix well, then when I do it it sounds horrible. Maybe that's the answer. Anyway I finished a ~30 min mix that I think is a definite improvement over the last one, though no doubt still crap. I wanna upload it but soundcloud rejected it since it's got a song from Armin's new album and it's not even released yet.
Loser Araysar
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If you're putting your mix together in a software program, the software typically does a decent job of identifying the key for you when you load the tracks into the library. I suggest using something like Mixmeister Fusion 7.4 or later, it is pretty newb friendly. You can find a bunch of versions on torrents.
here's some additional reading:
http://www.djtechtools.com/2007/12/1...mixing-in-key/
http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2011/05...mixing-in-key/
http://salacioussound.com/2010/10/a-...-professional/
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So fucking sick of the title "electronic dance music" and "EDM". When did this shit get that title because I've been listening to trance and techno since the 90's and I never heard that shit until the past 2 years or so. I bet it's a David Guetta term or some shit.
Yep it enrages me. Deal with it.
Yep it enrages me. Deal with it.
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