Engagement rings

Or you could say I gave my fiance an engagement ring because I loved her.

You guys are hysterical. It has nothing to do with females and everything to do with human nature. Buy a new car that you love and then drive it around and have your friends tell you it's a piece of shit and you got fooled. Buy a new pair of headphones you think sound great and have an audiophile tell you how shitty they are. Buy a PS4 and post about how excited you are to play it to your bros on rerolled and have Sean tell you it doesn't have enough RPMs and you're a moron. There will always be someone who gives you grief about how what you have isn't good enough and if you hear it from enough people you will get buyer's remorse and feel like a sucker. It's the goddamn way of the world!!

Blame the idealistic, materialistic societal views surrounding marriage. Doesn't matter how enlightened your girl is, if her friends suck they'll be able to sway her opinion and you'll be the one to pay. But who cares, she'll get over it... probably.

Noodleface_sl said:

Or you could say I gave my fiancea big hugbecause I loved her.

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Yeah, I see the wisdom in it. I'm asking why is it necessary to give them anything at all beyond affection and a joint future? What does a lump of metal with a rock really help in modern society? It's not like it's a solid investment, or even smart one at that. Craftsmanship etc eats up a lot of the retail price. It's basically an overpriced ornament.

It didn't help and I didn't look at it as an investment. I actually spent a lot less than most on a ring, but I wanted her to have something. It is a small ornament to signify we are betrothed. To me it was low price. I really don't understand the guys that pay 3 months pay for one and I think that's truly an outdated philosophy.

The whole 3 months thing was made up by someone looking to make some money.

Really, a ring is just that, an ornament. It's a sign that anyone walking by can see and think, "someone has made a commitment to this girl". Whether or not you spend $30k+ on a flawless diamond or get a moissanite / other stone is completely up to the couple. But in the end, the symbolism is the same. Spend what you want, and if you're happy in the end, who the hell cares?

Famm_sl said:

Its a pretty safe bet to assume that any man is going to find the diamond thing stupid. She was totally giving you what you wanted to hear or what she thought would be the best way to have that grip on you more.

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Oh I see. 90% of women are straight up about liking diamonds, because they're greedy bitches. The 10% that deny liking diamonds secretly do, because they're greedy bitches. It's all becoming so much clearer to me now.

It's not because they're greedy bitches. You ever see how women interact? They dress slutty to make other women jealous, they wear a big ring to make other women jealous.

Noodleface_sl said:

It's not because they're greedy bitches. You ever see how women interact? They dress slutty to make other women jealous, they wear a big ring to make other women jealous.

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I heard their periods can attract bears.

Eomer_sl said:

Oh I see. 90% of women are straight up about liking diamonds, because they're greedy bitches. The 10% that deny liking diamonds secretly do, because they're greedy bitches. It's all becoming so much clearer to me now.

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Why are you being a little bitch about this? Are you so conceited you deny the possibility or plausibility of someone catering to your personality traits? Comon, bro.

Tuco_sl said:

Like your wife never spent time just staring at her ring or the reflections of light it produces. Shit has intrinsic value to remind her that you love her, and has value because it reminds everyone around her that you love her. The bigger the ring the more of a reminder it is.

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By that logic, size matters, should I give her er brick instead? Why must it be a ring anyway? Can we quantify the effect and find comparable objects? Would a bank note do it? A gold bar? A car? A tiara? Necklace? Piercing? Chastity belt?

Izo_sl said:

By that logic, size matters, should I give her er brick instead?

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Purposefully obstinate or really this stupid?

Tuco_sl said:

"If I extract one element from your line of thought, ignore all context, culture and reason, then extend it in stupid ways I come up with ridiculous and useless questions and conclusions!"

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You're so eloquent, Tuco. Do you think the average woman and those around her will derive the same value from equal carat Moissanite and diamond, being fully aware of each rocks properties and alleged rarity? How much more Moissanite than diamond, carat wise, would you think is appropriate? What is the upper carat limit you'd put on a ring?

Izo_sl said:

Why are you being a little bitch about this? Are you so conceited you deny the possibility or plausibility of someone catering to your personality traits? Comon, bro.

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Of course that's a possibility, and it's also a two way street. I'm sure I cater to her personality traits on some things as well.

But on this particular topic, no, she isn't claiming to not have a thing for diamonds just because I personally think they're stupid. It just so happens that we agree on the topic. And all the talk of my girlfriend being deceitful just to deceive me in to buying her fancy things is fucking hilarious, when the reality is that she doesn't even let me buy her fancy shit when I offer to, because that's just not how she's wired. I mean fuck, after the first time we met, the word I got back through our mutual friends was to avoid any talk of fancy cars, expensive trips, or other material things because it was a big turn off for her. Other than some Timberland boots she bought for the winter and maybe a couple formal dresses, I doubt she even has any articles of clothing worth more than $100 per.

I think most people are materialistic and likely to cave to peer pressure purchases, it's not just a female thing. With that said for my wife's ring I lucked out because my family has kept some jewelry and I was able to pass on a decent ring that had a cool story attached to it ( insane fascist grand-uncle was thievin' during WW2 and robbed a train, lol ). 11 years and two kids later and she has gained too much weight to wear the fucking thing anyway. Not like I give a shit cuz it was just a tacky 'look at how many diamonds I can cram onto a piece of circular metal' type of thing.

When the lamentable upgrade and re-sizing discussion came up I did not try to suppress the catty, materialistic urges that this subject brings up. Instead I appealed to them, "for the cost of some fucking shiny rocks you could have an ENTIRE new wardrobe, or a couple of motorcycles we could ride ( and most certainly ruin-- do not let women near bikes ), or go on some ridiculous vacations etc etc. Imagine how jealous the bitches at the office will be when you have new designer clothing on everyday for fucking months! I've gotten too old and greedy to believe in the superficial shit about "make the diamonds a symbol of your love and blah blah".

Good memories from doing badass shit is so much better of a way to spend the money than on some trinket, and so much more effective of inducing jealous rage in bitch friends. "Oh ya and here's a pic of us at the top of a mountain in Colorado, and this weird marmot was there." "This is a video from an insane vacation period in Japan called Golden Week, in this town all the men wear only diapers, drink all day and chop trees down and have random people surf on the logs while the diaper army carries them around.

This is where all the jellyfish got stuck to my arm cuz I was too drunk to scuba but the Jaimaicans didn't give a fuck and I basically just began drowning instantly , lol, oh you never been? Well that's a very pretty necklace".

TLDRBuy cheaper jewelry, spend the money on cooler shit, and FUCK blatantly commercial 'traditions'. Show her you love her by having a great life and memories together, the shit you can't give someone in a little box.