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Draegan_sl

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DCUO was a blast until you hit level 30. But it wasn't really an MMO. Anyway, EQN needs hotbar combat, preferably EQ-like with a limited number of selections 8-10 max.
I'll agree 10 hotbars of 10 bars each gets ridiculous. Anything else means a shitty game no matter what else it has.
I could stand tab target hotbar combat if it's like Wildstar/GW2 where you are limited to X slots (like 5-10).
 

Draegan_sl

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I am probably going to get shit for this but I would like to see a system where auto attacks do the majority of damage and abilities are for situational purposes and awareness of those circumstances are what defines player skill. Positioning (MAX RANGE, MIN RANGE!) would also be a key aspect in both damaging and keeping yourself out of shit.
I don't mind this if it's like DOTA/LOL.
 

Byr

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fuck that, 10 bars of shit, every one of which needs to be used. Make me play a concerto on the piano that is my keyboard.

oh, and for fucks sakes no tab targetting.
 

tad10

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fuck that, 10 bars of shit, every one of which needs to be used. Make me play a concerto on the piano that is my keyboard.

oh, and for fucks sakes no tab targetting.
10 Bars bad
Tab Targetting good.
OT/DT best.
 

tad10

Elisha Dushku
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SOE is really selling the drama

Aug 2. 11:00-1:00PM EQN Reveal
4:00-5:00 PM EQN Panel #1
5:00-6:00 PM EQN Panel #2
Aug 3. 11:00-12:00PM EQN Panel #3
1:00-2:00PM EQN Panel #4
3:00-4:00PM EQN Panel #5
4:00-5:00PM EQN Panel #6
Aug 4. 12:00-1:00PM EQN Panel #7

 

Quaid

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Dude, Mark Kern is in our forum, stealing our thoughts:

http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...re/7540/page/1

I love how this twat is saying this crap now in 2013, like this is some sort of epiphany, when this problem has been very apparent for probably half a decade. I'm even gonna use a cutting edge meme to mock his cutting edge hypothesis.

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Dyvim

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Mark Kern, we demand thou to come forth a present you to the RR family, upon request thou shall be given pardon for ninjaing the vast knowledge of our thinktankbrainstorm that we nourished with our ocean of tears and the cries of our first borns. Thou shall be negged by the everlasting hatetrain and be blinded by the beauty of the Hermione.
But deny us and thee fate shall be to wander the eternal darkness of public wowboards among the kiddies and suffer of the fearsomest of crotch rot.
The planes shall for ever be defiled without your consent to drag your mug ridden corpse to the zone in and may your rezz stick be jammed till the red sox win the world series (oki scrap that last part)!
 

Sylas

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Originally Posted by Byr
fuck that, 10 bars of shit, every one of which needs to be used. Make me play a concerto on the piano that is my keyboard.

oh, and for fucks sakes no tab targetting.
10 Bars bad
Tab Targetting good.
OT/DT best.
For all it's faults, Neverwinter has the best combat of any MMO. I can probably never go back to action bar combat or non-mouse look/ non-reticle based targeting. I'll probably have to go back to FPS once Neverwinter tanks, that and Eve, but only for the sandbox/freedom/pvp. The actual combat mechanics there is meh.


as far as EQN goes, not sure what you guys expect here. If SOE had spent the hundreds of millions of dollars and half a decade of development time it would take for half of the wishlist things you guys are talking about in this game, they'd certainly be showing more of it. But bread crumb trickling out info for a "big reveal" later to build the hype? That shit's free. I dunno, this game is supposed to be F2P right? I'm not really sure what you guys are expecting, too many of you are thinking super niche old school EQ shit. decent F2P only really works when there is mass appeal as you can only count on like 5% of your players to buy shit from you. Otherwise it's just pay to win or pay-to-play-the-game-in-a-manner-where-you-aren't-completely-incapacitated-by-inconvenience.

Who knows, maybe they did only drop a few hundred grand and a few months of dev time so they can get away with super niche player numbers with a balanced F2P model. But again, SOE, so lol. They probably short changed the dev time/cost and went for full on pay to win as well.
 

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Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Tera has the best MMO combat.
I still need to check this game out. I played it for about a second. Admittedly I don't have much of a preference. I enjoyed EQ combat with my Wiz, WoW's combat, AoC, Rift, etc.. I can't imagine them talking all this talk and not coming up with a more unique combat system. They will probably borrow some stuff from VG for sure. Hopefully they say fuck class balance to an extent in the process.
 

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Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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So going back to what Flip said about building faction and switching classes. I wonder how that will work? As far as leveling and all. Would you keep your level in tact or have to start over with the new class?
 
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SOE is really selling the drama
Good on them. If they really have something new and interesting then they deserve the interweb viral hype steamroller to follow.

I still need to check this game out.
It's not as good as people make out imo. Technically it's great, no lag, it moves really fast and controls really well. But it's just like GW2, badaboom badaboom everything dead.


So going back to what Flip said about building faction and switching classes. I wonder how that will work? As far as leveling and all. Would you keep your level in tact or have to start over with the new class?
Switching classes? Like Rift? I really liked being able to switch to healer for a group, or dps or whatever. Although I prefer the old way where you get to focus on one. Although if it was like Rift but better... that could be good.
 

Caeden

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I read it as it was sounding like a faction gated version of tsw. Maybe each class has a guild you have to build rep with.

As far as hotbars, I think the issue was gw2 was all about cooldowns. I'm fine with situational but I actual enjoy faster pace combat. Doesn't have to be DDR but if I'm going more than 10s without a button to push, it could get boring

I'm more interested in seeing their resource design because mana and rage feels so played out.
 

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Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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I read it as you abandon your class for a new one. Probably losing access to the old on all together