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Utnayan
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Siliconemelons
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soooo digging this game...sans combat... Its another combat where you have no idea what's going on in detail and just mash abilitiess...or so it seems.
xzi
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All they showed is a few (semi)new mechanics how are some of you over-reacting this badly to the game? lmao. I'm super fucking interested in Landmark, and it definitely is a good move on them. They pulled a Valve and got the community involved which could potentially mean better and more content as well.
I guess we'll see as time passes to see what the devs are up to! Glad it's in open development tbh.
I guess we'll see as time passes to see what the devs are up to! Glad it's in open development tbh.
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This game will release CHRISTMAS 2014 mark my words write it down ppl. Landmark isnt even in yet, landmark gets in.. 6 months of going through content ppl submit, then implimenting it, then testing... like another year + boys.
Cinge
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I think a lot of people are upset because where is the "EQ" part of your "WoW meets EQ". Granted it may not be ready or whatever, but given your audience(soe live) and the loyalty the IP instills in people , that you would have something to show that "hooks" those people, but it really was completely different from EQ. I mean you could tell from the crowd, they just didn't seem that excited at all.
Thankfully I had no expectations going in. So either direction SOE went didn't bother me in the slightest.
For those of you wondering if its completely Free to Play or GW2 (free to play) on their FAQ it says that the game will be available for download but it doesn't say anything about a retail box or it being in stores.
Big Flex
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Well, I am highly impressed. I played minecraft for a bit and there is nothing like being able to terraform, imo. Caves become real, and can made deeper by players who are mining. It's exciting to ponder that possibly, under your feet, is a huge cavern with rare minerals awaiting extraction. All you have to do is dig and find it. Also, The realtime lighting is awesome. With dark nights, the back of those caves become pitch black. Makes for great experiences -and that is what a sandbox is all about
Voxels are great for quickly creating and managing land masses. What other MMO has layers of land that can be dug down into? The griefing could get bad, I agree, and that is a problem that SoE needs to find a solution for.
As for the crafting, the possibilities are endless if they start allowing players to make mods. The devs are clearly Minecraft influenced; from the voxel engine, to the parkour maps, to the constructable/deconstructable land.
The combat looked pretty bad in the video but I wouldnt doubt if we are watching alpha footage. There will be significant changes between what we saw today and what is released. I'm a bit worried that it was looking like Diablo and not played via first or third person view.
Overall, I'm blown away!
Voxels are great for quickly creating and managing land masses. What other MMO has layers of land that can be dug down into? The griefing could get bad, I agree, and that is a problem that SoE needs to find a solution for.
As for the crafting, the possibilities are endless if they start allowing players to make mods. The devs are clearly Minecraft influenced; from the voxel engine, to the parkour maps, to the constructable/deconstructable land.
The combat looked pretty bad in the video but I wouldnt doubt if we are watching alpha footage. There will be significant changes between what we saw today and what is released. I'm a bit worried that it was looking like Diablo and not played via first or third person view.
Overall, I'm blown away!
Convo
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Basically people don't like the art, combat and class system. So much else to learn about. I noticed they mentioned monks and I saw some wizard spires! That's about all i got other than the Minecraft stuff
for pvp servers: i'd hope they also open the SB editor such that you can have editabe npc dropped into your keep. also.. have a typs of server where the world is non selfhealing after which the server is restarted after everything has been completed destoryed
Yeah, they should've done more in this demonstration to hook the old EQ players in more. Instead they focused too much on their mechanical ideas and how they may work. All they had to do was a montage of old EQ zones and characters in the new engine and the audience would go nuts.
Cinge
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It says right at the bottom of the EQ:N's website : Free to Play. Your Way.? : Our philosophy is simple. Free games. No commitment. And if you want to buy, it's on your terms.
So probably FTP with "gold" subscription if you want it.
But nobody said this was an AAA game. It's only a matter of time until someone with a smaller budget makes a game that is all about the gameplay and less about the flashy shit that kids like. The audience is there, it might not be 10 million but it could support a decent game.
It's not overboard at all, they specifically told us that it's not another WoW clone. Turns out, yeah ok it's a GW2+Minecraft clone instead.
And that beta excuse is not going to fly. It is very obvious what this game is - exactly what I said. It is social porn for facebook kids, they can go to junior/highschool and get all their friends together, building a koool castle and defend it from big scary badazz monstorz. And sometimes you will fall in a hole and it will be, like a dungeon bro omg. And the mob will do big spellz or red marks on the ground witch u muzt run out da way ov. Totaly orsum badazomg bro.
Badazz. But not remotely EverQuest.
dood no wai dude omg
Give it 5-10 years. You'll be in your late 20's and you will hate all the new games and you will find yourself as a part of a forgotten generation too. Maybe then you will understand.
Game looks truly amazing, and I absolutely hate it. It is perfect, but for a different generation to me. The facebook/WoW generation will be all over it. For me, it's back to EQ Mac I suppose.
1) Cartoon graphics, very well made, really nice animations, looks like a Pixar movie. Absolutely great, only, I'm not 12, so it's not for me.
2) Voxel world, amazing technical achievement, this is the FIRST time a game world will actually genuinely change based on what the players do, unlike GW2 and Rift and everything else that promised real changes but didn't really change in reality.
3) Player made content, I am not motivated to make anything whatsoever. But I assume a lot of other people will make stuff and it will really help SOE out. So basically the game is like 50% crowdsourced development.
4) The combat is what ruined it for me. Ez-mode hack n slash for fucking 12 year old cunt kids who have ruined this entire genre, running around with stupid cartoon characters, pressing a few buttons and watching their characters somersault all over the place smashing waves of tiny mobs. There are no DoT's because no fight lasts longer than 2 seconds, no debuffs, and no thought required or strategy. It's just all about teleporting about and causing huge explosions so the kids go DUUUUUUDE BADASS!! Everything they told us about tough fights was a really nasty lie.
5) The multiple classes and multiclassing sounds fun, but who gives a shit when you hack n slash everything to death in seconds.
6) What they made is amazing, but it's not EverQuest.
Oh well
It is World of EverCraft. Take one part Guild Wars 1, one part Guild Wars 2, one part WoW (graphics and ez mode gameplay), and one part Minecraft (making structures with other people). And that's all this is. If I had to make a game for 13 year old kids with a huge budget, this is what I would make too.
Rereading this thread from the start isfucking hilarious, by the way.
I'm pretty impressed, EXCEPT for the combat and the character models.
Seriously SOE, what is with you guys and character models?
If they're going to go the sort of cartoony route, they should take a few pointers from Bioshock Infinite. Also, that Kerren model needs a revamping, badly.
The combat looked very button mashy, diablo style. I don't really care for that. I'd like to see more strategy. Pulling that many mobs should be rape. I want to see CC come back god damn it.
Seriously SOE, what is with you guys and character models?
If they're going to go the sort of cartoony route, they should take a few pointers from Bioshock Infinite. Also, that Kerren model needs a revamping, badly.
The combat looked very button mashy, diablo style. I don't really care for that. I'd like to see more strategy. Pulling that many mobs should be rape. I want to see CC come back god damn it.
Laura
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Oh God...... that Kerran Character... painful to watch.
I'm more interested in EQ Landmark than the actual game.
I like how the world is "depth-tiered", hopefully they know how to make use of that.
All what was revealed doesn't mean anything because we won't play the game to see animation or destroy "voxels"... in the end it's all about Combat, Itemization, Class-Roles, Dungeons and the experience of "being in a world"... they didn't tell us much about that. We don't know if death means anything or if soloing all the way is possible by all classes or if combat-energy resources needs to be managed (and takes a long time to regenerate if you mess things up) which results in downtime if you're a bad player...etc
I was skeptical before and I'm indifferent now. Some good stuff, some horrible stuff (Kerran model).
I'm more interested in EQ Landmark than the actual game.
I like how the world is "depth-tiered", hopefully they know how to make use of that.
All what was revealed doesn't mean anything because we won't play the game to see animation or destroy "voxels"... in the end it's all about Combat, Itemization, Class-Roles, Dungeons and the experience of "being in a world"... they didn't tell us much about that. We don't know if death means anything or if soloing all the way is possible by all classes or if combat-energy resources needs to be managed (and takes a long time to regenerate if you mess things up) which results in downtime if you're a bad player...etc
I was skeptical before and I'm indifferent now. Some good stuff, some horrible stuff (Kerran model).
