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zzeris

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He lost a ban bet about a plane filled with radioactive tuna that crashed into a garlic plantation in Saudi Arabia... Or something.
Terrorists trying to stop the Saudis from saving the world one garlic plantation at a time.
 

Dyvim

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where has big Tad been?
quoting myself 'cause related


I think Boromir said it best


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Xexx

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Sony has always sucked balls at PR for its games. I dont see anyone even mentioning EQN outside of these forums and knowing Sony they will let the hype it had die down to oblivion before they show off anything interesting again.
 

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Game's like what, 2-3years from release? Let the hype die down, who cares, they'll have plenty of time to start hyping it again when they actually have shit to show for it. Also I guess hyping EQN when they're gonna be "releasing" Landmark soon would be counter productive. They'll hype that, then use that to hype the real EQN later on.
 

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EQN is 2016, probably late at that. The hype machine would be wasted. I do think they're struggling to keep any interest in Landmark though.
 

Xexx

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Game's like what, 2-3years from release? Let the hype die down, who cares, they'll have plenty of time to start hyping it again when they actually have shit to show for it. Also I guess hyping EQN when they're gonna be "releasing" Landmark soon would be counter productive. They'll hype that, then use that to hype the real EQN later on.
The projection i was told was always late 2015 with a summer 2015 beta - that may not apply anymore but that was what i was told by a dev last year. Also how much have you played of Sony games of recent? They are the worse at promoting games, more so than any other company ive been around. SoE Live this year will have a playable version of EQN to play even if it will only be a small portion of the game.
 

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The 2015 is pretty much vapor since they keep struggling to even get landmark in a launchworthy state.
Also should they somehow have a tiny portion playable for fanfaire this year expect them to not have much else ready to play, just like when Noobs of Conan had a playable 1 on 1 map about half the size of a Unreal Tournament map playable with placeholder textures for armor and weapons about 8 weeks prior launch.
 

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EQN is 2016, probably late at that. The hype machine would be wasted. I do think they're struggling to keep any interest in Landmark though.
I know how the industry works, but to someone like me late 2016 is a huge disappointment. I saw this as maybe a game that would be the first big MMO on a console. 3 years after the PS 4 launches is too long. No way sony doesn't push them to release by summer 2015, at the latest.
 

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I know how the industry works, but to someone like me late 2016 is a huge disappointment. I saw this as maybe a game that would be the first big MMO on a console. 3 years after the PS 4 launches is too long. No way sony doesn't push them to release by summer 2015, at the latest.
I'd think most people on this board would rather the game to actually live up to its promises then be rushed and terrible. Some people here have been waiting 10+ years for a geniunly good MMO to come out I'm sure another year or two won't hurt them.

Since PS2 and landmark are making money and H1Z1 is coming soon after I'm sure they can keep EQN in there back pocket.
 

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The 2015 is pretty much vapor since they keep struggling to even get landmark in a launchworthy state.
Its exactly the same people working on both games? Although I bought in, I am not keeping up with Landmark on the daily; what big milestones have they missed there to have it described as "struggling"?

I don't know that it would be good strategy to keep hyping Next; Marvel isn't promoting Avengers 2 right now, either. Landmark is what is next so it will obviously get the hype dollars. There will be plenty of time to spin up for Next after Landmark launches.

On 2015/2016 launch, I think Tad said way back when it depends on how much content they are able to pull from Landmark into Next as to when it would launch. If it was a ton, they would be looking at late summer/fall 2015. I still think they will hit EQ anniversary in 2016.
 

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The 2015 is pretty much vapor since they keep struggling to even get landmark in a launchworthy state.
Also should they somehow have a tiny portion playable for fanfaire this year expect them to not have much else ready to play, just like when Noobs of Conan had a playable 1 on 1 map about half the size of a Unreal Tournament map playable with placeholder textures for armor and weapons about 8 weeks prior launch.
EQL is just a spin off of the EQN tech - EQN was in development long before they thought to make landmark a standalone title. You really shouldnt tie them both too much together as in thinking EQN progress is being slowed by the fact EQL is shit or stuttering. Also if you think Smed the used car salesman is taking the "when its ready" approach youre high as fuck - Sony never releases anything short of half assed shit regardless of what it is. They will get EQN out asap.
 

zzeris

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They still haven't released any of the cave systems, water, and a bunch of other stuff in Landmark and people think EQN will magically appear in 2015? There's still a ton of work to accomplish.
 

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Caves seem to be coming in the next patch and for the most part they have adhered to their blueprint/road map. I don't see where all the claims of things not being done on time are coming from. Right now they're in the "E3 Push" which includes swimming effects, caves, player studio and building tool improvements.

The rest of June should be bringing phase 2 of caves, recipes and achievements, death, treasure chests, voip, voxel water, map improvements and glass material.
 

Dyvim

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Its exactly the same people working on both games? Although I bought in, I am not keeping up with Landmark on the daily; what big milestones have they missed there to have it described as "struggling"?
Oki ill give you one: Caves in Landmark coming in may, quite likely the 2nd week of may accoring to old ponytail *takes a shy glance at calendar*

Since you are so keen about major milestones, name a few the team (lets be honest theres only one team working on only one of the titles) has made w/o postponing it at least once or doing an emergency patch the very first 24 hours it hit the landmark server, and im not talking about a beta.
 

Lenas

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You don't just nail every single development milestone when you're creating stuff from scratch. Obviously you've never written a line of code in your life.
 

Dyvim

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No, obv i havent but i dont claim to get this game out the door by 2015 as well. Heck i dont believe any date Smed or Ponytail give out to the public for any milestone or launch by now.
Dont get me wrong if EQN comes out 2015 ill sure as hell try it, but i dont see me spending any money on some pipedream SOE tries to sell the fanbois as the second coming of Nagafen either. Im beyond that, way beyond that after years of hit and misses.
 

zzeris

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I don't see the need to bring it out in 2015. Maybe late in 2015 but it's success is not dependent on 2015 at all. As Lenas has mentioned, Landmark should easily be out before this year ends but that still leaves a lot to do in 2015 including a decent amount of time testing alpha, beta, etc.
 

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I could see beta starting summer 2015, but it'd be a really long beta. Like real beta cycles and shit, building as they go and iterating on mechanics and shit. 10 to 12months beta process and stuff, would put the release in summer 2016 which sounds alright.
 

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I could see beta starting summer 2015, but it'd be a really long beta. Like real beta cycles and shit, building as they go and iterating on mechanics and shit. 10 to 12months beta process and stuff, would put the release in summer 2016 which sounds alright.
lol - we must be on different planets and have very different experiences with SoE - 10-12 month beta testing? Sure that would be nice - but it will "never" ever happen - and you can quote that. If it had a summer 2015 beta it would be out by Xmas or Feb/March. I read these post and it seems like no one has played EQ2 or any other SoE game since EQ1 and realized how they do shit lately.

But hey, i could be wrong and maybe they do shit right -i just dont see it happening at all by no means. They will spin their shit and blow smoke up your ass then toss you a game hardly out of alpha.