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Dyvim

Dyvim

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Memorywise its a big difference.
TL;DR We usually notice we run outta free chache / ram etc when 100 different peeps show up on screen and you hear your harddrive go into hyper mode and the stutter of death begins. Dunno how this would turn out with the nifty SSDs though.
 
Sabbat

Sabbat

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For people asking about the voxel modeling from 3D models...

converting 3D models for building in minecraft

Grab binvox and viewvox, follow the directions and well, you've got a method to output any 3D model to voxels. The greater the -d value, the higher the resolution, but bigger the object will become. There's a few options in viewvox to make it much easier to build stuff.

Once you figure it out, there's pretty much nothing you can't build, that's why you've seen that AT-AT and the god statues recently. They've just taken awhile to assemble and smooth out. Just wish I had a second monitor. =D

This is how I've been building my statues and my cube on it's vertex. I really should get around to finishing them... got distracted by trying for a legendary pick.
 
Quaid

Quaid

Trump's Staff
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Ya... it kinda sucks that some people have that distinct advantage, but what can ya do?
 
Ukerric

Ukerric

Bearded Ape
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Tuco_sl said:
And if the primary output of an engineer is powerpoint slides then he is probably miserable.
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The primary output of an engineer isn't powerpoint. The primary salesmanship of an engineer is powerpoint. You can have the best project, but if you end up making apowerpoint from hell, your project will never even exist.

Style and design should be part of any advanced curriculum, because they're as important in your career as knowing how to work an integrated chip simulator.
 
Sabbat

Sabbat

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Ukerric_sl said:
Style and design should be part of any advanced curriculum.
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As a graphic designer, I fucking hate uneducated hacks trying to design a website, logo, product catalogue.. blah blah blah. Even worse, are the people that took an introductory course in Photoshop and think they're the hottest shit since Mother.
 
Sabbat

Sabbat

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Quaid_sl said:
Wait... are you implying that the tools present in Maya are equal to those in landmark? I had no idea. That's pretty awesome
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Shit no, not at this stage.

We might have crossed lines at some point.. I'm talking about outputting 3D models to voxel based data, which with 2 little programs is very simple.

You do need the skills to make the 3D model in Blender (that's free btw) in the first place though. Or say... to create props for the Player Studio stuff.
 
Caliane

Caliane

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Quaid_sl said:
Forgive my ignorance on this, but isn't it just a matter of polys rendered? What does different character models have to do with it?
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no.

I mean, casting AOE in wow during AQ would crash the server.
So yeah, as they said, spell effects, different player models, npcs.

700 people, there without crashing. how many were visible?
 
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Amycus

Lord Nagafen Raider
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So, I haven't really followed this game at all, and I've never played Minecraft. I'm not really in to building stuff, but is it possible to just harvest and make better tool, and just supply others with mats? I'd like that.
 
Jimbolini

Jimbolini

Semi-pro Monopoly player
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Amycus_sl said:
So, I haven't really followed this game at all, and I've never played Minecraft. I'm not really in to building stuff, but is it possible to just harvest and make better tool, and just supply others with mats? I'd like that.
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Yep, that's what I do for my wife as she builds stuff.

Will be pretty decent progression to make better items and crafting tables when all finished.
 
Anomander Rake

Anomander Rake

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Skanda_sl said:
Jealous?
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Nope.

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Soygen

Soygen

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Try changing your title back to "Registered User". That might work. Not sure.
 
Tuco

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I got Tuco'd!
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Quaid_sl said:
Forgive my ignorance on this, but isn't it just a matter of polys rendered? What does different character models have to do with it?
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Like Dyvim said the memory allocation is a huge deal.

Beyond that there are techniques to render the same model/animations very efficiently. Serious Sam was one of the better examples with this and rendered hundreds of high poly/texture models on old hardware very well. MMOs generally don't attempt to perform that level of optimization because usually when there's 100 models in one place most of them are players all with unique models.

But the most impressive part is when you can have that many people in one location and your server doesn't take a huge shit. Obviously they could've had much more server power than they will have at release for that event, but the big problem is that online games have N * N complexity for processing/sending information. As in, every player gets information about every player.

So if you have 10 players that means the server is sending 10 players information about 10 players = 100 player-informations get transmitted.

If you have 700 players that means 490,000 player-informations!

This problem basically crippled GW2 for a year in beta and months post-release.

The other part to that problem is calculating the result of AE effects on that many players or mobs. If everyone is spamming AE buffs/debuffs/heals/damage on everyone then things go poorly. Yesterday Everquest nerfed a bunch of AE abilities because people were using them on too many mobs and dramatically increasing the CPU load on the server.
 
Terial

Terial

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hmmm just noticed my name not listed in the Alpha/Beta Participants... also wtf is a champion title??
 
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