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I been in africa a while and its been busy once I got back, so haven't had much chance. TBH probably wont have the time to sit and play a game until after christmas, but I'm sure ill be back at it eventually.

Catching flagships is definitely lol when you are a naval super power, too bad they become just regular boats though. It'd be neat if they kept at least a little of their buff.
 

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Reinstalled this today, it has been 7-8 years since I last played. I am getting a message saying I cannot earn steam achievements during this session. I found some guide that told me to clear my download cache and verify the integrity of the game files. It also says to delete any and all mods. This is a fresh install as EU4 has never been played on this PC, not to mention I never modded EU4 in the past on other PCs. None of this worked. No achievements isn;t the end of the world, but I would prefer them on. Anyone have any advice?
 

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Oh, has it always been that way?

If yes, I obviously forgot because it has been a while.

Thanks Dude!
Yes. However you can still save scum if you copy saves into a separate folder as you go. Just be sure to wipe out both the current save and the backup if you want to copy back into the main save folder.
 
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Been playing this game a lot still; I've even put BG3 on pause to go back to play some campaigns here. It just really scratches an itch I guess. I've had a max Cav Combat Ability run with Sich Rada that was absolutely broken -- I've never had a military force that strong. I could take a military like France at a 3:1 to ratio. The stack wipes were endless; very satisfying.

I'm currently doing a Provence run with the aim of maxing my Diplo Annex cost reduction as well as having some fun with the Emperorship. It's been a fun time since I often avoid early game HRE stuff. That's led me to fight with the major colonizers as a source of expansion. Below is a large chunk of the new world in 1593 and it looks quite a bit different than it usually does!


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Denmark, Brittany, Mamluks and Castille are the main colonizers. England has a tiny 6 province colony. Portugal and France have nothing. Castille actually has a decently sized Brazil and a tiny La Plata but that's about it -- pretty impressive since he's down to about six mainland provinces. All of this without me directly touching their colonial land or colonizing myself. I'm looking forward to seeing it in a hundred years.
 
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Been playing this game a lot still; I've even put BG3 on pause to go back to play some campaigns here. It just really scratches an itch I guess. I've had a max Cav Combat Ability run with Sich Rada that was absolutely broken -- I've never had a military force that strong. I could take a military like France at a 3:1 to ratio. The stack wipes were endless; very satisfying.

I'm currently doing a Provence run with the aim of maxing my Diplo Annex cost reduction as well as having some fun with the Emperorship. It's been a fun time since I often avoid early game HRE stuff. That's led me to fight with the major colonizers as a source of expansion. Below is a large chunk of the new world in 1593 and it looks quite a bit different than it usually does!


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Denmark, Brittany, Mamluks and Castille are the main colonizers. England has a tiny 6 province colony. Portugal and France have nothing. Castille actually has a decently sized Brazil and a tiny La Plata but that's about it -- pretty impressive since he's down to about six mainland provinces. All of this without me directly touching their colonial land or colonizing myself. I'm looking forward to seeing it in a hundred years.
Portugal not colonizing is weird, I guess they got pu/vassalized early? I see it happen every now and then.
 

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Portugal not colonizing is weird, I guess they got pu/vassalized early? I see it happen every now and then.
Nope, it's actually been a free country for the entirety of the run. It's true that if you hit vassalize early they won't choose Exploration, but they definitely have it and Expansion. I think it's because they've been in terrible financial straits the entire game because they were allied to Castille, England and various shifting other allies so they'd get their money swiped every time I attacked those other countries. I did end up taking some land, but not until about 40ish years ago (when I took their lone colonial province, the one in Cuba, which I only did so their capital wouldn't go over there). But yeah, that nearly empty Cuba is the the most amusing part of this for me.
 

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Real shame they raised the subscription price. By itself, still cheap. In context of knowing they're going to continue pumping out DLC that raises the overall cost of full ownership, leaves a bad taste.

Is there a historical map-painting alternative?
 

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Yeah, they should really consider releasing bundles that include everything but the last three or four expansions so that you could always get into the game all the way for 60 or $80 at most. But they've done this model for so long I don't think they're ever going to change. The increase in the subscription is really shitty.

I don't think there's any alternative that comes anywhere near to the fun and features as EU4 so I guess that monopoly is why they act the way they do.
 

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Looks like I'm the only one still playing this game, haha.

Nah, I started playing again a few months ago. Looking at my Steam playing time for 2024 I played EU4 pretty much exclusively with a couple of hours of Elden Ring here or there

I've gotten to the point where I'm pretty good when it comes to money maxxing (I got trade nodes, downstream/upstream, gold mines, production maxxing figured out) and I'm pretty good at war fighting. I'm still kinda beginner-to-mediocre on diplomatic aspect of the game (i dont really know about tag switching, personal unions and how to manipulate a lot of the diplomatic options).

On normal difficulty the game is totally trivial. In last playthrough as France (first time playing as France) I controlled all of the New World, most of Africa, all of Malacca and Moluccas, was the economic hegemon, by early 1600s. I tried playing as weaker nations like Dai Viet or Riga but it just takes a bit longer to become a hegemon.

Do the higher difficulty levels make the game more fun or do the big bonuses to AI just make it really cheesy?

Any countries you'd recommend playing? I was thinking about some of the African nations like Kilwa or Mali. Below is all the countries I won the game with (from memory).

Russia
Great Britain
France
Spain
Portugal
Ottomans
Timurids
Mughals
Ming
Dai Viet
Japan
Sweden
Riga
Venice
 

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Personally, I'm waiting for EU5 to get back on the train. Should come out sometime in the coming year.
 
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Personally, I'm waiting for EU5 to get back on the train. Should come out sometime in the coming year.

No, I dont want this. I bought all 24 DLCs already
 
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DickTrickle

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Nah, I started playing again a few months ago. Looking at my Steam playing time for 2024 I played EU4 pretty much exclusively with a couple of hours of Elden Ring here or there

I've gotten to the point where I'm pretty good when it comes to money maxxing (I got trade nodes, downstream/upstream, gold mines, production maxxing figured out) and I'm pretty good at war fighting. I'm still kinda beginner-to-mediocre on diplomatic aspect of the game (i dont really know about tag switching, personal unions and how to manipulate a lot of the diplomatic options).

On normal difficulty the game is totally trivial. In last playthrough as France (first time playing as France) I controlled all of the New World, most of Africa, all of Malacca and Moluccas, was the economic hegemon, by early 1600s. I tried playing as weaker nations like Dai Viet or Riga but it just takes a bit longer to become a hegemon.

Do the higher difficulty levels make the game more fun or do the big bonuses to AI just make it really cheesy?

Any countries you'd recommend playing? I was thinking about some of the African nations like Kilwa or Mali. Below is all the countries I won the game with (from memory).

Russia
Great Britain
France
Spain
Portugal
Ottomans
Timurids
Mughals
Ming
Dai Viet
Japan
Sweden
Riga
Venice
I did an Ottomans world conquest finishing in 1478, for an indication of my continued investment in the game, heh. Lots of cheese, birding and exploits in that one, though. Like you said the game becomes easy in time so I've made the challenge in being how fast I can do certain things or forming a bunch of nations to stack their modifiers.

Very hard makes the early game more difficult and sometimes more interesting because the AI get huge manpower and forces limit bonuses. It forces you to improve your army micro because you're in a meat grinder. However, you're constantly having to fight so many armies, even for nations that are much smaller in development. For me, it's just not fun because it makes every war a slog.

Bonuses on hard are not as big a deal and it doesn't feel too much different from normal but you do generally have less friends to rely on.

Aztecs has a powerful mission tree, good economy, and room to grow with a good CB and American frontiers (colonized every neighboring province -- imagine that after taking down NA natives). Also has a monument that removes coring distance. A lot of exploity/gamey mechanics you can use. I've played them two or three times and you can actually get their mission tree as any nation with hijinks.

For African nations, there's a few interesting ones. Mali has probably the worst disaster in the game at start so a fun challenge to get through. Kilwa has good gold economy and colonizing. Kongo has a very nice mission tree and can be formed by others. Pretty easy to get going against other Africans and then prepare for the real battles with Europe/Otto's.

Oman in middle east is a fun trade power playthrough with some unique mechanics. A number of the small or OPM countries in the caucuses/ME are interesting and fun. Trebizond, Theodoro, hisn Kafya, Ardabil, Armenia... All are good campaigns with some tough starts for a challenge.

India is pretty shit overall.

Majapahit is fun with a nice mission tree that can allow you to vassalize any size nation (but you need to prepare to handle liberty desire from that).

Japan has the Shogunate which allows a kind of vassal swarm and a start that can be tough but rewarding. A lot of paths to take with them.

Definitely try out a Horde to see how broken they are. Oirat is the classic but Teutonic Order has access to razing while still being European and a theocracy.

And lastly a pirate Republic. Gotland, So, or Cornwall would be good starting nations for a pirate but you can form a pirate with many nations if you meet conditions and are small. Great imperialism style CB, razing, and raiding.
 
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I did an Ottomans world conquest finishing in 1478, for an indication of my continued investment in the game, heh. Lots of cheese, birding and exploits in that one, though. Like you said the game becomes easy in time so I've made the challenge in being how fast I can do certain things or forming a bunch of nations to stack their modifiers.

Very hard makes the early game more difficult and sometimes more interesting because the AI get huge manpower and forces limit bonuses. It forces you to improve your army micro because you're in a meat grinder. However, you're constantly having to fight so many armies, even for nations that are much smaller in development. For me, it's just not fun because it makes every war a slog.

Bonuses on hard are not as big a deal and it doesn't feel too much different from normal but you do generally have less friends to rely on.

Aztecs has a powerful mission tree, good economy, and room to grow with a good CB and American frontiers (colonized every neighboring province -- imagine that after taking down NA natives). Also has a monument that removes coring distance. A lot of exploity/gamey mechanics you can use. I've played them two or three times and you can actually get their mission tree as any nation with hijinks.

For African nations, there's a few interesting ones. Mali has probably the worst disaster in the game at start so a fun challenge to get through. Kilwa has good gold economy and colonizing. Kongo has a very nice mission tree and can be formed by others. Pretty easy to get going against other Africans and then prepare for the real battles with Europe/Otto's.

Oman in middle east is a fun trade power playthrough with some unique mechanics. A number of the small or OPM countries in the caucuses/ME are interesting and fun. Trebizond, Theodoro, hisn Kafya, Ardabil, Armenia... All are good campaigns with some tough starts for a challenge.

India is pretty shit overall.

Majapahit is fun with a nice mission tree that can allow you to vassalize any size nation (but you need to prepare to handle liberty desire from that).

Japan has the Shogunate which allows a kind of vassal swarm and a start that can be tough but rewarding. A lot of paths to take with them.

Definitely try out a Horde to see how broken they are. Oirat is the classic but Teutonic Order has access to razing while still being European and a theocracy.

And lastly a pirate Republic. Gotland, So, or Cornwall would be good starting nations for a pirate but you can form a pirate with many nations if you meet conditions and are small. Great imperialism style CB, razing, and raiding.
Thank you for the suggestions. Reverse colonization of the Old World as the Aztecs sounds interesting

Also, I won as Japan Shogunate but had no idea about the vassal swarm mechanic

LOL, wtf 249 vassals
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Thank you for the suggestions. Reverse colonization of the Old World as the Aztecs sounds interesting

Also, I won as Japan Shogunate but had no idea about the vassal swarm mechanic

LOL, wtf 249 vassals
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Yeah, you can actually make that even nuttier. The thing about the shogunate is the liberty desire for each vassal is only compared to your own power (just like HRE) instead of the combined power of everyone like they usually are.

With that in mind, if you start as Majapahit and complete their mission tree to get their unique CB, you can vassalize any one of any size. If you then culture shift to Japanese and move your capital to Japan and take the shogun title, any vassals you take will automatically become vassal daimyos. Thus you can do crazy shit like vassalizing a large Ottomans or Spain and have them actually be loyal.
 

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I always play on hard and modify the save game to bump it to very hard when it starts getting easy
 

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Imo the ideal would be to have a way for very hard modifiers to be for only lucky nations, and add a few random luckies, and go with that. The big issue with the ai is often that it stops other ai and nobody can really snowball properly so you end up the sole true blob. You might get a runaway here and there but they often have their issues - castile and ottomans crash, france ends up having napoleon style coalition wars not even halfway into the hre, etc. The game needs a way to have the strong ai eat the weak more easily so they can have several of em to face you down.