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Tenks

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I tend to side with BoS because I'm a self servicing fucker who only cares about #1. It feels like if I climb high in BoS they have more to offer in terms of personal status.
 
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Cybsled_sl said:
Sheffield mans my bar in town ;p Brew bot usually hangs out next to the stand.

MM lore is easy in future games. "People of Commonwealth banded together and told everyone to GTFO and dealt the Institute and BoS a crippling blow, although neither were totally destroyed. Commonwealth was merely a setback!".

Basically it lets them do a power reset on the 2 overpowered factions techwise so they can keep the series rolling. NCR is powerful, but they lack the tech. BoS and Institute, if they put their minds and muscle to it, were the only 2 surviving factions that could legitimately rule the world.

Institute: They literally are the only ones with future tech that developed well beyond the confines of pre-war. They aren't interested in conquest, but they are interested in reclaiming the surface eventually. They run the risk of repeating the mistakes of the past, though, in terms of science without morality (ie, Vault-Tec). They don't care much for the surface folks unless they can be useful (ie, Institute grabbing the best scientific minds from the surface and letting them go to town research wise once they are initiated).

BoS: Huge military machine now with the most advanced pre-war tech available, such as Liberty Prime and a flying aircraft carrier. They are interested in conquest of all tech, which ensures only they have the toys. They don't care about "civilians" unless they can provide them with supplies or show promise as BoS members (scribes or soldiers).

The direction the BoS is headed in wouldn't result in a rebuild for the world and basically it would just be the status quo. At least with the Institute, you could argue that some of their advancements would ultimately benefit the planet. For instance, the Warwick seed experiments are plants that literally remove radiation from the environment AND they are super nutritious. And the FEV research, while morally questionable in terms of how they went about obtaining subjects, did potentially have the chance to reverse the mutations that created Super Mutants and other mutations. I mean, the Enclave just wanted to kill them all (mutants), at least the Institute was seeking an actual cure for FEV.
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NCR isn't below BOS by any means. They have all but subdued them in the west. They have Vertibirds, power armor (even more advanced/agile with much better troops the NCR Rangers who know the terrain), and a massive army. Also alot of that tech has fallen into their hands after defeating the BoS in Cali and Mojave. They are a republic so their problem is trying to rule democratically. They struggle with the politics that Hipster Maxson doesn't have too like the lazy General causing the stalemate at Hoover.

Oh and also the enclave logs. They have alot of the pre-war tech the Enclave left behind in the power vacuum too.
 
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Tenks_sl said:
I tend to side with BoS because I'm a self servicing fucker who only cares about #1. It feels like if I climb high in BoS they have more to offer in terms of personal status.
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Except you'd always be licking Maxson's balls. How the fuck is that guy supposed to be 20 lol?
 
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Drinsic_sl said:
Except you'd always be licking Maxson's balls. How the fuck is that guy supposed to be 20 lol?
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Did you not notice his neo-skrillix haircut of course he's 20!

And I wouldn't care about being a second fiddle. I'm not here to gain a ton of responsibility just personal status and wealth. MM is too much work, RR is too poor (and fuck their "robots are humans too" shit) and Institute is too gay. So BoS it is.
 
Phazael

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Yeah that is the one issue with the BOS is that they have literally become a feudal knighthood, with the familial line of succession. If you go with the direction Bethesda has taken them, they basically went from hiding tech to protect the world to hording it to preserve their domination.
 
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So yesterday's patch busted all my mods. Anyone know how to fix this? I read that turning the mods back on in Nexus manager, after starting the game works, but they don't seem to be disabled in the mod manager. I've put 30+ hours in with the silent main character mod(w/ the full text choices) and I can't play without that shit now!
 
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As soon as you run the FO4 launcher it will disable all the mods, then just toggle them back on in NMM. With the latest version of NMM, you only have to do it once and from then on it will prevent the launcher from fucking it up.
 
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Lyons' BOS was the best chance they had at becoming an actual nation with power. By protecting the people of the capital wasteland, it would have fostered a trust that would have seen the BOS become the ruling power of a region at best, or the military industrial complex of a new nation at worst (a capital wasteland council but the BOS would have R&D, as well as recruiting more members).

I liked Lyons' BOS, but I am kind of glad they went this direction with them; a BOS that was doctrinally flexible would be an easy choice, and probably steamroll most other factions.
 
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Brotherhood of Nazis. Little disappointed there are no references to hitler/nazis and the BoS since the vault dweller is alive during the 1940s.
 
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Big Phoenix_sl said:
Brotherhood of Nazis. Little disappointed there are no references to hitler/nazis and the BoS since the vault dweller is alive during the 1940s.
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No, he wasn't. His great grandfather or some shit fought in WW2.

The bombings in Fallout happen in 2070, so he'd be like 130 years old before he even went in the Vault if he was alive in the 1940s.
 
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Big Phoenix_sl said:
Brotherhood of Nazis. Little disappointed there are no references to hitler/nazis and the BoS since the vault dweller is alive during the 1940s.
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No he wasn't but it's easy to think he was. Our timeline is similar until 1945 and the 1950's just don't end until 2077. China annex Russia we annex Canada etc. It's like a long ass winter in game of thrones lasting decades. The closest thing to WW2 for him would have been the resource wars in 2052-2077.

Great read
Resource Wars - The Fallout wiki - Fallout 4 and more - Wikia
 
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Does anyone know if the damage shown for a weapon includes the bonus given by any Legendary modifiers?

For instance, I have a sniper rifle with a legendary modifier of '25% More Damage', so does the damage shown in Pip Boy reflect the extra damage, or does it just show the base damage of the weapon? Likewise with weapons that have the 'Shoots additional projectile' modifier.
 
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Caliane_sl said:
Fallout 5 canon? So the SS, and the minutemen repelled the BOS invasion, crippling the East coast BOS, built a trade, and settlement empire. Then the SS up and left to invade Canada, and was never heard from again. And the MM fell apart 30seconds later when Preston Garvey stumbled upon a Nuka Cola addict named Sheffield, and decided to make him the new General of the MM.
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Is the "SS" you're referring to the Enclave? Sorry, not really up on the Fallout lore, aside from 3 & 4 (and I remember only parts of 3).
 
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